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Title: Change of Plans
Post by: Big58cal on April 11, 2013, 11:25:37 PM
Well, I've been saying something to the boy every so often about turkey season opening but haven't asked him if he wanted to go.  The past few years he hasn't been real interested in hunting so I've not been pushing it.

Yesterday, the wife had to go out of town to Chicago for work, so the boy and I were on our own last night.  As we were waiting on our pizza and wings to get done at Pappa Johns, I looked at the weather on my phone and said something about it being cooler this weekend but still being OK, and then asked him if he was going to go turkey hunting with me.  "Yeah"

 :o :o

Crap!  I hadn't planned on that!  ;D   Sent the wife a text today and told her to get him a pair of boots that would fit him.  I stopped today and got a push button turkey call that he could use and some shells for his gun.  I got choke for his 20 gauge last year, but since he didn't want to go, I never bothered getting shells and patterning the gun.

So from the way things are shaking out though with as busy as things are for everyone, I'm going solo opening day.  The boy has a karate belt test that he has to take on Saturday.  Sunday, he and I will hunt together, but I won't have time to have patterened his gun, so if he wants to shoot, I'll take the crossbow for him to shoot.  I know it's dead on.  O0   Next weekend, he has a karate tournament we've got to go to on Saturday, but then we'll go hunting on Sunday.  I'll have his gun patterened by then.

The next weekend, right now anyway, there's nothing planned except hunting for either of us.  O0

To add to this, I offered to call for my adult cousin that doesn't turkey hunt but is wanting to get into it.  So sometime I'm going to have to make time to squeeze him in.  I told him to just get his tags.  We can hunt his land, he can use my gun, and I'll call for him.  To me, just calling them in is just as much a thrill as pulling the trigger.  O0   For him, once he hears one of them big thunder chickens cut loose within 40 yds, he'll be hooked!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: MOSPARKY on April 11, 2013, 11:54:50 PM
OH HAIL YEAH, you the man BC  O0 O0 2 rookies in the same season ? Thats being an Ambassador of the Sports. Go get'em !
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: John Andrews on April 12, 2013, 10:49:17 AM
 O0 BC! Nice going! I hope you get some hunting time in for yourself, too.

  O0  :) I'm also glad you have your son in Karate classes. It's refreshing to see parents doing all they can for their children.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Big58cal on April 12, 2013, 04:13:26 PM
The boy isn't "exactly" a rookie.  ;)  He went with me a couple of years ago when I busted one.
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I had at least 2 birds coming in but didn't know what they were.  Mason was wanting to call, but I didn't have anything but a glass call that he could use (it was raining) and I was using it.  I wouldn't let him try with it because I didn't know what the birds were.  :|  Looking back on it, I should have let him give it a shot.  :'(  That's why, come hell or high water, I was going to find him a push button call that he could use.  O0
Yeah John, he really enjoys the karate.  So far it's paid off pretty well too.  O0  Back last fall a kid grabbed him around the throat on the playground at school.  He quickly proceeded to give him 2 quick punches to the face to get him to let go, resulting in a bloody nose for the kid and a severely bruised ego.  ;D  Normally, kids would get suspended for fighting, but there were enough witnesses to it that backed up Mason's claim that he was defending himself that they didn't do anything to Mason.  I think the other kid got something out of it though, besides the bloody nose.  ;)
He's a purple belt right now.  I think it's his blue belt that he's testing for on Saturday.
From the looks of things, tomorrow is probably going to be the only day that I'll have to try to get a bird for myself.  That's OK though.  I'd rather Mason get them anyway.  O0  I'll still get to eat them, so I'm a winner any way you go at it.  ;D
As for my cousin, I think he's around 28-30 years old or so.  If I can get him into turkey hunting, great!  The thrill is in being able to call them in.  The shot is anticlimactic.  ::)   His father-in-law just bought about 140 acres of ground not too far from our farm and Michael is basically the caretaker over it.  I know "about" where it's at, and if it's at where I think it is, it's going to be loaded with turkeys.  :D   Calling for him will let me pass on the addiction, feed my own addiction, and I won't have to get punished by that shotgun!  ;D
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: bohicajuan on April 12, 2013, 10:49:11 PM
WAY TO GO MASON!! Don't take crap from anybody!! He chokes you. You kick him in the ya-ya and then punch him in the larynx!! He and EVERYONE ELSE will know not to miss with you!! O0 O0 O0

I didn't get into martial arts until I was 15. The boys got a jump on everybody!! O0 O0 O0

Hey BC!? Your son might grow up to be just like me!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :roll: :wink:
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: John Andrews on April 13, 2013, 08:30:43 AM
 O0 O0 O0 Way to go for both!

I bet they have some squirrels in that new place, BC.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Big58cal on April 15, 2013, 12:30:41 PM
Yeah, there's a few squirrels there.  Michael's dad (my uncle that taught me how to hunt) has already laid claim to the squirrels though.  ;D
Well, this weekend was a bust.  :x   I saw 1 hen when I was walking in Saturday afternoon and that was it.  I didn't hear any gobbles all weekend, even off in the distance.  This late spring must have them screwed up.  Normally when turkey season opens around here, everything has greened up and the dogwoods are blooming.  Everything is just now starting to get green and the redbuds are just now starting to bud out.  The dogwoods haven't even thought about coming out yet.
Even if there aren't any gobbling on our land, I'll usually still hear some off in the distance.  I didn't hear anything all weekend!  :x   Only heard maybe 15 shots all weekend and that was it.  Normally, I'll hear that many within 2-3 hours on opening morning.
From what I've been reading on another board, it's kinds of hit or miss across the state as to whether or not they're gobbling.  The southern part of the state, they're gobbling.  Central on up, nothing.  Kind of had a feeling that it was going to be like this though.  Normally, when the boy and I are leaving for school in the mornings, we'll hear some gobbling there by the house.  Haven't heard any yet this year.
Mason didn't hunt with me Sunday.  He didn't want to go.  The only thing that I can figure is that it was because I didn't have his shotgun patterned.  I told him that he could shoot the crossbow, but apparently he didn't want to do that.  He's going to go with me this next weekend though.  O0   I'll have his gun patterned by then.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: John Andrews on April 16, 2013, 08:46:07 AM
 O0 Good luck!
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Big58cal on April 19, 2013, 09:16:24 AM
Got to looking back at some pictures from last year and there's a world of difference between this year and last year.
I took a couple of pictures Saturday morning and thought I had them here at work, but don't.  Below are 2 pictures for comparison though.  One I took last year on 4/15/12.  The other one was taken 4/6/13 by my trail cam.
Notice what I was saying about the late spring this year?  That's the only thing I can figure for the the birds being so screwed up around home.  I've hunted them every year for probably 20 years down there. I KNOW how the birds act down there.  :x   This year, they're all screwed up!  :tickedoff
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Big58cal on April 19, 2013, 10:53:04 PM
Here;s one of the pictures I took from this past weekend, 4/15/13.  Same area as the first picture above, within 20 yds.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Big58cal on April 19, 2013, 11:14:04 PM
Got the boy's 20 gauge sighted in and patterned tonight.  Had 4 different shells to put through it and try, some Federal, Winchester, Kent, and Hevi-Shot.

Where I've got the stock shortened down to fit the boy, the first shot, my thumb came back and like to broke my freaking nose!  :o   Subsequent shots, I made sure and didn't wrap my thumb around the stock.  ;)

So what'cha think?  Think this would be a dead turkey?  ;D   This was with the Hevi-Shot.  It's just a tad high, but I'll take it.  ;)   I counted 37 pellets in the vitals on it.  That should be good enough. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: John Andrews on April 20, 2013, 08:56:11 AM
 O0 :twisted: Dead turkey every time, BC!

Yep, those M1 noses hurt! Some folks don't know what that is, but I sure do.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Big58cal on April 29, 2013, 12:07:35 PM
Well, the boy and I were finally able to get out yesterday (Sunday).  It poured rain Saturday night down there, but by the time we left the cabin it had cleared off.  Throughout the morning though, it would cloud up and sprinkle for a minute or two, but that was about it.
We started out behind the house down on the farm.  Worked our way across the majority of the farm, sitting up and calling from time to time, but never had anything answer us and never saw anything.  :'(   Finally around 9:00 we were headed back to the 4 wheeler and were out in the open climbing up a hill when I heard a gobble over across the road on our other land (wouldn't you know it  ::)  ).  I couldn't tell exactly where it came from, so we kept listening and I heard it again and was able to pinpoint it and had a pretty good idea where the bird was.  Mason was wanting me to call to see if the bird would gobble again, so I grabbed the loudest call I had and started cranking on it.  A bird started gobbling, but this was a different one, further on back, and this one was HOT!  O0   He just kept hammering!  I had a pretty good idea where that one was, so we hoofed it on up the hill to the 4 wheeler and came down to try to get across the flooded creek to get over to the property.  It was a little hairy getting across the creek, but we made it and slowly and as quietly as possible, took the 4 wheeler up to the top of the hill and turned it off. 
When we got up to the top of the hill Mason said that he had heard a shot go off.  :?   For him to have heard it over the top of the engine noise, it had to have been pretty close and/or pointed in our direction.  I asked him which direction he had heard it.  He pointed in the direction of where that 2nd bird had been gobbling.  :x :tickedoff   I figured someone must have been working that bird for him to have been hammering as hard as he was, but I was still hoping to had gotten in between him and whoever it was and cut him off so Mason could have gotten a shot.  Oh well, there was still the first bird we heard and he was closer to where we currently were anyway.
We sat there on the 4 wheeler for a little while to let everything kind of calm down a little, and then I let out a few yelps.  The bird gobbled back almost immediately from within about 100 yds!  :o   Both of us bailed off the 4 wheeler and went down the hill as fast and quietly as possible to set up on a little point.  I knew where the bird was and showed Mason where he would come from.  I threw everything I had at that bird, but that 1 gobble was all I ever got out of him.  :x   Clucks, yelps, purrs, whines, cackles, cuts, you name it!  Nothing worked!  After a quite a while, we got up and moved back up onto the road to go down to the point the bird had been on and then started walking the point out.  Walked down it a little piece and set up again.  Still nothing.  Got out the binoculars and started glassing ahead as we slipped on down the point to the property line and where the woods ended at a field.  No birds anywhere.  :x
I've got a feeling that that was an old bird that had a bunch of hens with him.  In nature, the hens go to the gobbler.  A male, when he hears a hen, will usually gobble once to let the hen know where to come to.  By trying to call the male to us, we're going against nature.  With younger birds, it's pretty easy to do because they haven't been around long enough to know that the hens are supposed to come to them.  Older birds know it though.
I told Mason that that bird was probably going to be tough to kill.  He said, "Well, why don't we both shoot at the same time at it?"  ;D   "No buddy, not that kind of tough to kill.  I mean he's going to be hard to hunt and get a shot at."
By that time it was 11:30 and we needed to be cutting out.  Mason wanted to keep hunting that bird, but I had told the wife that we were going to try to cut out of there by 12:00 and I knew if I didn't she would start worrying and I'd have to listen to her later.  ::)
The season is still in this next weekend.  Mason doesn't have school Friday, so I think I'm going to try to take the day off and we're going to head back down there and see if we can't get a shot at that bird.  That old bugger may be tough to kill, but I know he's there now, I know where he's using, and more importantly, I know what the turkeys do and where they go when they're using right there / following that pattern.  O0
Here's the only picture I took yesterday.  The boy turkey hunting.  O0
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Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: bohicajuan on April 29, 2013, 04:42:55 PM
Looks like hes got the bug!! O0 O0

Keep at it! You'll get 'em!! O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Big58cal on April 29, 2013, 09:37:29 PM
Looks like hes got the bug!! O0 O0

Keep at it! You'll get 'em!! O0 O0 O0

Oh, you have no idea.  ::)   He didn't want to leave Sunday.  He was really wanting to keep going and keep after that bird.  He was asking me where I thought the bird went and I actually had to lie to him and tell him that I didn't know.  :|   I knew where the bird went and where he was headed.  ;)   But I had to get the boy back up here, so we had to cut out of there.  The last thing I needed or wanted was a mad momma after me.  :o
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Big58cal on May 05, 2013, 10:57:18 PM
Well, looks like this season was a bust.  :x   The boy was out of school Friday because of the KY Oaks.  The Oaks runs on Friday and is generally considered KY's day at The Downs, whereas Saturday is the Derby and everybody and their brother comes in from out of town.  So anyway, the area pretty much shuts down on Friday.  ;D   Being as it was, I decided to take off work on Friday and the 2 of us go turkey hunting.  With the birds just now starting to gobble like they should down there at the farm, it should be pretty good.  O0

Since the bird had given us the slip over across the road the previous week, we headed out over there to start with, but headed up to the bench where I normally hunt.  I was hoping that there would be some birds roosted up on the ridge that would come down to us.  Not happening.  :x

We sat in my little blind until about 8:30 (with the boy taking a nap   ;) ),  and nothing happening.  So we slipped down to the flat where I figured that turkey from last weekend was headed.  Sat there for about 1.5 hours and nothing.  This whole time, we're hearing birds gobbling, just none on our land.  :x   We heard 7-8 gobblers hammering around us, but none were on our land.  There were a couple over on the WMA land behind our land behind the house, so we finally decided to see if one of those wanted to come and play.  ;)

Went over there there and set up about 10:30 or so, hoping that any hens that he had with him would have went to the nest and he would have been looking for love.  No business.  We sat for about 45 minutes, but never heard a gobble or never had anything show up.  :'(

It wasn't a total loss though.  I had gotten the boy a push button call to use.  They don's make the best sound in the world, but they're easy to use.  During the times out, I had been teaching him how to use a paddle or box call.  Honestly, he had gotten pretty good with it.  Clucks, yelps, and purrs, weren't a problem for him.  He needed to work on his timing and cadence, but that was to be expected.  But still, for an 11 year old just picking one up, he was doing good.  Since I do 99.9% of my calling with a pot call, I figured he wanted to learn that one.  ;)   I started showing him on one, but it's not a call that you automatically pick up.  ;D   So needless to say, he needs quite a bit of practice on it.  ;)   He still needs to learn the hand position and how to hold the striker a little better but it's all part of the learning process.  O0

Neither of us got a bird this year, but I guess that's OK.  I'm not too worried about not getting one myself, but I really wanted to try to call one in for Mason.  :'(   I threw every seductive call I had at those birds, trying to get them to come to us.  I even tried 5 different sounding calls.  I've had them gobble at 1 particular call in the past and not others, so I make sure and carry several calls with me.  Nothing seemed to work.  Guess I'll just have to chalk this year up to a bad year.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: John Andrews on May 06, 2013, 06:59:53 AM
  O0 Well, you gave it more than just a good try, BC!
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: MOSPARKY on May 06, 2013, 08:29:49 PM
Between the quality time spent with the boy and the things he learned without the distraction of those nasty birds are priceless and not a bad year at all  O0
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Big58cal on May 06, 2013, 11:30:58 PM
Between the quality time spent with the boy and the things he learned without the distraction of those nasty birds are priceless and not a bad year at all  O0

I'd have rather had the distraction of one of those nasty birds somewhere along the way.  ;D   We both could get 2 you know.  ;D   We already had it planned out too.  If more than 1 showed up, we were both going to shoot 1 and coordinate our shots at the same time.  ;)

We had a good time, but I would have still rather him get a bird.  I said something to him about leaving some time or another and asked him what he wanted to do.  He said that he just wanted to get a turkey.  :|

He and I only went out twice, but we gave it a heck of an effort during the time that we were out.  We tried multiple set ups and chased the birds around.  We heard several and at least now, the boy knows what to listen for and knows how to start picking a turkey gobble out from all of the "noise" going on around the area. 

Guess we'll just have to see what next year holds.  :)