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Title: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: Big58cal on September 30, 2014, 01:06:59 PM
Well, the crossbow season officially opens tomorrow here in KY, which means that I can take the boy and he can use the crossbow.  The 2-day Youth Season comes in 10/11 and 12 though.  On those 2 days he can take a rifle.  It can't get here soon enough!

There's 4-5 good bucks using up at one spot that I've been saving for the boy.  My brother has been seeing the pictures each week of these bucks, and has flat out been chomping at the bit to get up there, but I've asked/told him to stay away from the area until Mason has a chance to hunt it.  The kicker is, the spot is on my brother's land!  ;D

I've got a blind set up up there and it hasn't been hunted yet this year.  I've been wanting to hunt it to get the freaking groundhog that's still up there, but have refrained.  ;)

I've let Bo see the pictures of these bucks.  :o   Hopefully we'll have a good wind during the Youth Season and one of those critters will show up and the boy will get a shot at him.  O0
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: John Andrews on October 01, 2014, 08:38:34 AM
I sure hope the boy connects, BC! And that groundhog is living on borrowed time.  :twisted:

Our BP youth season has been in effect. We have seen two nice 10 pointers get hauled out of the main gate.
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: Big58cal on October 01, 2014, 10:47:25 AM
I actually ordered the boy........ dare I say it......... a Savage rifle last week.  :-X :o :o

 ;D ;D ;D

Actually, it was a toss up between a Ruger American Youth and a Savage Axis II XP Youth, both in .243 Win.  I kept going back and forth on which one to get and was leaning toward the Ruger until I went and talked to my buddy that owns the pawn shop where I get my guns.  He had both guns on the rack, but they were full size, not youth.  The Ruger was used and had about 6 rounds through it.  He had ordered it for someone.  The guy picked it up, took it home and shot it, and brought it back and traded it in and told him to order him a Savage Axis.

Between that, the Savage coming with a Weaver scope already mounted and bore sighted, and a $50 rebate, that pretty well convinced me.  ;)

Granted, it's no Marlin, but I figure that the boy has got to have a junky rifle to cut his teeth on here at first.  I wouldn't want to give him a nice rifle right off the bat and have him mess it up.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: MOSPARKY on October 01, 2014, 11:03:02 PM
A SAVAGE ??!! You actually said that out loud, you know that don't you. Where is my head/palm emoticon ??
 Good thing for you JA can't figure out how to add that to his signature line.

 All kidding aside, probably not a bad choice. As usual, price sells, and they are good quality rifles. I doubt the boy needs a beater, I'm sure he will treat it like grandma's china.
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: John Andrews on October 02, 2014, 09:42:47 AM
 ;D  ;D  ;D  :twisted: I knew BC would finally see the light and buy Savage!
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: Big58cal on October 02, 2014, 12:45:47 PM

 ;D ;D ;D >:D I knew BC would finally see the light and buy Savage!
Actually, I've got several of the junky things.  ;) ;D   Kinda consider them "throw away" guns, and in the same class as One-Night-Stands, and girls you'd date over a weekend.  O0   They're DEFINITELY NOT what I would consider "wife material" though.  Not something that you would be proud of and want to take home and show your parents.  ;) ;D ;D ;D


I doubt the boy needs a beater, I'm sure he will treat it like grandma's china.


Mo, you definitely haven't been around the boy.  :o :o   He could tear up a set of railroad tracks with a rubber hammer!  :tickedoff The only thing that is more destructive than him is his dog!  :o   Stray dog showed up at our house one night, scared half to death, and of course, the boy fell in love with her.  She's a boxer mix and just as sweet as can be.  Mason named her Bella, but I call her Destructo.  She chewed the wiring harness off my trailer twice, has put countless punctures in any water hose that's left out, tears into bags of cans, dumps over the trash cans in the barn, cracked one of the dials on my air compressor and chewed up the hose, and has slowly been disassembling the swimming pool.  :o   It's only fitting that she is Mason's dog!  ;D ;D    2 peas in a pod.  ::)


Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: John Andrews on October 03, 2014, 08:39:46 AM
And probably a chip off the old block!  ;D Yep, your son will treasure that Savage rifle above all other rifles.  O0 ;D

I knew ya would be a closet Savage lover.  ;D
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: Big58cal on October 03, 2014, 09:50:48 AM
The guy called yesterday and said that it was in.  Going to go pick it up today.  We'll see how the thing looks.  It will be Monday before I'll get to shoot it though.  :x   Got too much other stuff to do between now and then.  Besides, either Monday or Tuesday would be when Mason could shoot it anyway, so.....

Gotta go down this weekend and see if I can't tag one of those bucks with my crossbow.  O0   I'm not going to be up at that one spot, but I think I know where they're coming from.  ;)   There's an ulterior motive for doing that as well.  If the spot is as good as I think it is (and the wind isn't too screwy), I'm going to set the double ladder stand within shooting distance of it.  ;) It may not help for the Youth Season, but it may for the Gun Season in November.  :)
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: John Andrews on October 04, 2014, 08:00:38 AM
I happen to know what a great a shot BC is. All he needs is a shot.

BC also loves Savage rifles.  :twisted:

Good luck to you and the boy this season, rascal!  O0
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: Big58cal on October 06, 2014, 10:18:02 AM
It always kills me on these hunting shows where they're following the animal with the camera, and following it, and following it......... and no one is shooting! :? :o   First clear shot, I'm like "Bust It!"  O0 I don't think I could ever work for one of those shows.  ::)   It would be nice to get to hunt for a living, but I don't think I could wait like they do.  ;D

Got the double stand up yesterday.  ::)   That was an experience.  ;D   Had it loaded on the trailer and took it down, along with the little cart that I pull behind the 4 wheeler up at the house to collect tree limbs, yard clippings, dirt, rocks, etc.

Figured as big as the stand was, it was going to be too big to fit on the 4 wheeler and me still be able to drive, thus the cart.  Put it on top of the cart and strapped it down and put all of the other pieces and parts in the cart.  Luckily my brother helped me put this one up.  O0   I only turned the cart over once.  ;D   Right before we got to where the stand was going.  Friggin' hill!

Got the junky Savage rifle Friday.  ;)   Didn't have time to mess with it any all weekend.  It's still in the plastic bag in the box.  It's supposed to rain today and tomorrow, so that kind of nixes taking it out and shooting it.  :x   We'll have to see how it does Wednesday.  Looked last week at Wally World for some .243 ammo and they didn't have any.  Hopefully they'll have some this week.  I've got some, but I always like having more than I need.  O0

And no, I don't love Savage rifles John.  :P :knuppel2   Just forced into using them because they're cheap throw away rifles.  O0 ;D
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: John Andrews on October 07, 2014, 09:39:12 AM
 ^-^ ;D Says BC as he buys another Savage rifle and adds it to his precious Savage stable.

I hope the rain quits and you get your stand set up, BC. Deer and turkey population looks pretty good, huh?
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: Big58cal on October 07, 2014, 04:43:45 PM
And just to prove my point about it being a junky Savage, I've got to go this afternoon and get some steel scope rings.  ::)   Might as well get the Standard Leupold bases as well.  O0

Though not necessarily the rifle, the scope came mounted on the rifle from Savage.  One side of the rings was completely bottomed out and there was a big gap on the other side.  I don't mount scopes like this and don't like them mounted like this.  I want there to be an equal gap between the ring halves on both sides.

I started loosening the one screw and tightening the other screw to even everything out.  The screw on the side that I was tightening pulled completely through the cheap aluminum ring.  :x

As I said, it's not the rifle itself, but it still reflects on Savage.  I wasn't putting much pressure on the little allen wrench they sent with it because I know how soft aluminum is.  But I didn't expect it to be THAT soft!  :tickedoff

Just as well though.  At least now it's forcing me to put some good mounts on there that I know nothing will happen to.

There's a pretty good deer population down there John.  I'm just biding my time to see what the boy is going to get to see how many more I'll need to get.  There's a ton of turkeys!  :o   I'm allowed 4 in the fall and have a feeling that I'll be able to fill all of my tags for that.  O0
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: John Andrews on October 08, 2014, 09:11:44 AM
Bummer on the aluminum mounts, BC! Like you, I never choose aluminum mounts or rings. And yes, that was some sloppy factory work on the scope mounting job.  >:(

Turkey populations have exploded here, too.

Good luck with the deer and birds, fella. My money rides on you and the boy doing really good this season.  O0
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: bohicajuan on October 09, 2014, 06:35:41 PM
Both of my Savages came without scopes, but it doesn't speak much for the people they have assembling the packages before shipping. :knuppel2 :knuppel2 :knuppel2

Was it bore sighted at the factory?

If you're going to go it yourself you're better off with Leupold or Weaver rings and mounts imho.
How crisp is the trigger pull?

My Ruger Light Sporter is a .243 and I get the best results out of a company here in Georgia called Georgia Arms that loads 100 grain Grand Slams. They've been really behind lately due to the ammo crunch that I went out and bought some Federal Premium 100 grain Partitions from Nosler. Got them sighted dead on at 200 yards and recoil is not that bad. Accuracy is really good. I figure a 3 shots ran about an inch and a half more less since I didn't really measure that closely. Chest or shoulder or neck shot will do it too it.
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: Big58cal on October 10, 2014, 11:10:34 AM
Yeah, it was supposed to had been bore sighted, but I never got the chance to check it.  ::)   So much for that $50 rebate.  :x   New Leupold mounts cost me $49.99 + tax.

When I went to take the old Weaver style rings off, I put a screw driver on the big nut on the side to loosen it.  I didn't even have to really use the screw driver.  They were only on basically finger-tight.  :tickedoff   Great workmanship there Savage employees!  :x

Got the rifle sighted in about 1/2" high at 50 yds with some Remington 100 grain loads.  Can't remember the bullet design.  Tried some Winchester 100 grain and they shot the same and some Federal 90 grain.  The Federals were hitting higher of course.  100 yds was still a little higher, but that's OK.  Last 2 shots at 50 with the 100 grain Remingtons were in the same hole.

The spot were we're going, it's 42 yds from the blind down to the mineral block.  O0   The rain is supposed to hold off Saturday, and I checked the wind and it's supposed to be good for Saturday.  Sunday is a different story.  ::)   It's supposed to rain and the wind is supposed to be wrong for that blind.  Hopefully the boy will get it done on Saturday.  O0
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: John Andrews on October 11, 2014, 06:58:31 AM
  O0 Good luck, BC!
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: MOSPARKY on October 11, 2014, 07:59:20 PM
Good Luck to the boy. With the bad stuff coming, hopefully the deer  will be up and moving before they hunker down.
Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: Big58cal on October 14, 2014, 10:17:47 AM
Well, no deer.  :'(   Got up there before daylight and sat until about 11:30.  Saw a couple of coons and a bunch of squirrels and that was it.  I could tell the boy was getting a little restless, so we took off and went down to the house and got my brother to fix us some sausage and eggs.  We chilled out for a little bit and then headed back up there.

Got back in the blind about 2:30.  Around 3:00 we had a doe come in, but that was the only deer that we saw.  We sat there until it wasn't light enough to shoot anymore.

It sprinkled a little off and on all day and came a pretty decent shower once during the day, but we stayed dry in the blind.  The wind stayed relatively constant all day.  It was out of the NE about all day, but would shift a little every so often and start to come more out of the E, but that was OK.  It's when it starts coming out of the S, SW, or W that we've got issues.

When we first got up there we had a deer blowing at us down off the the ridge over on the bench a ways.  It had to had been because of the amount of noise we were making trying to get set up in the blind, the windows unzipped, etc, because I know it didn't smell us.  My luck it was one of the bucks we were after.  ::)

The early muzzleloading season is this weekend, but I'm not sure if I'll get to go.  If I do, it would be Saturday morning only.  Got WAY too may other things to do.  Even then, I'm not sure if Mason is going to go with me.  I have a muzzleloader for him, but it's an adult size, and it's never been shot.  If he goes, he'll have to use mine.  O0

Title: Re: Come On Youth Season!
Post by: John Andrews on October 15, 2014, 08:31:50 AM
I hope it all comes together for you fellas this weekend, BC!  O0