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Title: Again with the waterbug
Post by: D45/70 on March 27, 2017, 02:58:03 PM
You know with out a truck to get out in the field I sure seam to be working on the bug a lot. That is a good thing I suppose . I finished the "slick" paint , the sheet steel and the HDPE runners on. I had it upside down in my shop for over a month. I put her the right side down now and it looks better. I'm planning on taking it over to our Fish wildlife and parks station soon . To have a "VIN" assigned and stamped in the hull. A formality to get a title and registration and a boat number, and permeant tags. I'm going to get it titled as a plane gas powered 12' boat, forgoing some Federal regulations ...
My first plan was not to have bung plugs and just use a high capacity bilge pump. BUT
with the new invasive Mussels the FWP is going to require a permeant drain in a boat hull, in my case two.
EVEN if I never use them they have to be there, humm.
Now I have to do that BEFORE I take her down for said "VIN" number.
I did Redo a small trailer we have to accommodate the 7 1/2 foot wide boat, its a temporary fix till I can make a custom , for my purpose ,trailer just to use to move it around a bit and to water test things as I go.
 I would love to be out practicing killing gophers But, you know life happens .
D
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: MOSPARKY on March 27, 2017, 08:09:46 PM
Great Progress, D  O0 How long before you get the Truck back ?
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: D45/70 on March 27, 2017, 10:54:34 PM
 :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
Don't

Gota find a replacement .
 Been looking at trucks 2006 to 2011 Ford / Chevy.
 No Diesel only gas 1/2- 3/4 ton.
Got to have 4 full doors.
But every thing is $18,000/ $20,000 And
 180,000 miles . MAN !!!
:idiot2 :idiot2 :idiot2 :idiot2
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: John Andrews on March 28, 2017, 03:46:27 AM
You are having quite a time of it, D! Now bungholes! Is sure coming along now, going to have it licensed and titled soon and on the water. :)

As for truck shopping, it is really tough to find a good truck and not pay a fortune.
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: D45/70 on March 30, 2017, 02:10:45 PM
Bung plugs

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Remember I was not going to put them in but I have to. FWP requires them now that there combatting the zebra mussels


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Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: John Andrews on March 31, 2017, 05:49:54 AM
Looks good, D! Have you folks been seeing zebra mussels?
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: D45/70 on March 31, 2017, 08:14:46 AM
No adult mussels have been found.
 But there larva have been .
In two of our reservoirs, problem is there "Up stream " impoundments. 
One is in the main stream of the Missouri river and the other is at the head of a  tributary of the Missouri .
 Sounds like bad news to me...
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: John Andrews on April 01, 2017, 07:16:43 AM
Yeah on bad news, D. Once they get started in a waterway, there is no way to stop them that I know of.
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: D45/70 on October 10, 2017, 09:49:45 PM
At long last I have the primary clutch "ON" the motor.
I had to relocate the starter an 1/8 inch as to let the front half turn freely.

 Every thing is turning to the left and all the screw on parts are right hand thread. I have roll pins and nut locks an anything in the "Drive train". I'm going to do a power up soon to see if the VW 1600cc will make the clutch engage. The "First" "TEST" ended in a major malfunction. BUT I have added a carrier bearing to prevent that  now, I hope.


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Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: John Andrews on October 11, 2017, 05:06:59 AM
 O0 Mechanic porn! Looks good, D! With left hand threaded parts and right hand threaded parts, has the torque caused problems of anything coming loose? Maybe not, since Loktite works very good.
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: D45/70 on October 11, 2017, 02:44:22 PM
Could!
I use Loctite on everything and lock nuts, and wire or star lock washers.
 Hope not.
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: John Andrews on October 12, 2017, 03:34:49 AM
Could!
I use Loctite on everything and lock nuts, and wire or star lock washers.
 Hope not.

  O0 That ought to work, D. I can expect a full water trial before winter? Your undertaking building the waterbug would be a real learning curve for the rest of us. I think waterbug is a good name for your craft.  O0
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: D45/70 on October 12, 2017, 02:10:33 PM
Thanks It has been a challenge.
Today I did a Major test .   A+!!!!!
1971 VW bug 1600cc undetermined  mileage motor.
This set in a shed for maybe 30 years. I Got a new carb at amazon ( still factory settings ),
New coil, plugs wires points and condenser. I set the valves and point with a feeler gauge ,remember them ?a year ago  I had it running on the ground for like 5 minutes for the first test of the clutch adaptor that I had made. It failed in moments. I redesigned and had it fabbed up again, This time with a carrier bearing and a shaft that went in to the piolet bearing in the crank. I Have not ran it since. I built the hull made the motor mounts and finally mounted it on the boat.
Made a mount for the carrier bearing re did the starter to fit.
It is About a year later. Today I needed to start it up and see if my primary clutch off the 1969 Johnson snowmobile would even work.

Dang! I put the fuel line in to a gas can and hit the starter. A dozen turns and she came to life. I have not put a timing light on it yet but it ran very smooth from, 800 rpm (Idle) after the electric choke came all the way off , to 5000 rpm ( as fast as I wanted to turn it unloaded). As stated in the information I could find on the clutch It engaged at 1700rpm and at 3100 rpm was fully moved in for the reduction change. Everything sounded smooth and solid. I ran it for a half hour or so at 2500 rpm. I still have to do some work on my temp and oil psi gauges apparently, but the oil on the dip stick was still cool to the touch.  NICE!

Next to mount the secondary clutch, and see if that part works as expected !!!

 
 
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: John Andrews on October 13, 2017, 03:52:02 AM
 O0 That sure sounds good, D! I sure hope your secondary clutch works smooth, too. Let is know, will you?
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: D45/70 on November 12, 2017, 07:27:17 PM
  In between deer hunts...

 
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Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: John Andrews on November 13, 2017, 03:22:54 AM
 O0 Looks good! How is it working, D?
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: D45/70 on November 13, 2017, 01:29:23 PM
Nothing is welded yet I use pop rivets to fab it up.
 They hold together but will not take the strain of running it.
Looks about like what I had envisioned two years ago.
 :idiot2
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: John Andrews on November 14, 2017, 03:37:24 AM
Nothing is welded yet I use pop rivets to fab it up.
 They hold together but will not take the strain of running it.
Looks about like what I had envisioned two years ago.
 :idiot2

O0
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: D45/70 on November 19, 2017, 04:27:58 PM
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 Chain and tightener
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: John Andrews on November 20, 2017, 04:17:41 AM
 O0 And now comes the last of the welding?
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: D45/70 on November 20, 2017, 03:25:43 PM
O0 And now comes the last of the welding?

YUP

I did a no load, no prop today.
 All looked good. The clutch started to move at around 1800rpm.
 I did not have my laser tack on the hub but it looked slower then the drive.
 It starts out at 3x1.
 As I increased the motor RPM the clutches both moved, as expected, the clutches
 Topped out at 3000 RPM, right where I was hoping.
 I should be like .70x1 there ,I would guess around the top end for the prop, 3100RPM.
 I didn't run it long but It was quiet and smooth and looked to be running true.
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: John Andrews on November 21, 2017, 03:05:05 AM
  O0  :) So your waterbug is hitting the water for a water trial pretty soon, D?
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: D45/70 on November 21, 2017, 12:51:08 PM
More welding required .
IF IF IF  this year it will be a "Hard Water" test.
As in ice. Only thing open here is the river.
I'm thinking that may be an "Up the creek with out a paddle" thing
:D
Title: Re: Again with the waterbug
Post by: John Andrews on November 22, 2017, 03:04:22 AM
More welding required .
IF IF IF  this year it will be a "Hard Water" test.
As in ice. Only thing open here is the river.
I'm thinking that may be an "Up the creek with out a paddle" thing
:D
:D Yeah, might be better to wait until Spring!