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Title: Deer with pistol
Post by: Spray on December 19, 2007, 01:04:12 PM
I've bought a Doe Tag that I can still use this year and on the new years season.  I'm going to be rabbit hunting with meh 20 guage, but obviously a #7 or 6 shot would not be a smart thing to throw in a deer's direction if i happen to see one while rabbit hunting. If I was to bring a .40 cal smith and wess when I go wabbit hunting, first would it be efficient enough to kill a deer within 40-50 yards? All I have are target rounds and hallow points, its my protection gun. What kind of rounds would i need to kill a deer cleanly, .40s are good for penetration but deer are fairly tough. I've used this gun at the range a lot recently, I'm consistently hitting 1.5-3 inch shot groups at about 15-25 yards respectively.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Big58cal on December 19, 2007, 02:09:33 PM
The .40 and hollow points would do the job, but if you're groups are spreading to 3" at 25 yds, I wouldn't shoot much beyond that for deer.  Paper targets don't move right as you squeeze the trigger like a deer might. O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Ks_Sniper on December 19, 2007, 02:17:01 PM
The .40 and hollow points would do the job, but if you're groups are spreading to 3" at 25 yds, I wouldn't shoot much beyond that for deer.  Paper targets don't move right as you squeeze the trigger like a deer might. O0

I agree with BC here. The .40 with hollow points will be plenty for a deer. I read a newspaper article where a local "hunter" paid a rancher to let a suspected CWD elk go on his land so he could "hunt" it. He shot the elk with a .40, receiving full penetration and hitting his buddy on the other side.

Most .40's though are semi autos. You'll want to make sure you can hunt with a semi auto in your state. I think I remember you saying you lived in KS. If that's the case, then I'm pretty sure you cannot use a semi auto pistol on deer.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: bighoytman on December 19, 2007, 05:09:21 PM
The .40 cal semi auto will kill a deer that weights up to 150 pound easy at 40 yards.I shot a doe with my glock  with a factory loaded hollow point she traveled about 25 yards before going down.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: worldsworsthunter83 on December 21, 2007, 08:36:09 AM
i agree with them^ .40 is enough to kill, but you got to hit him right on the money$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: bighoytman on December 21, 2007, 09:44:14 AM
The 40 cal is a great little round if I was gonna use it solely as a hunting gun I would scope it with maybe a holographic red dot scope.What size barrel do you have on it 4 or 5 inch.I have the bullet from the deer laying around if I can find it I'll post a pic of it.Bullet hit in crease and was in the other shoulder under the skin.If you want a 40 caliber with a little more muscle with a longer barrel check out the 10mm in a revolver/semi auto the longer barrel will help keep the groups a little better.It is like the difference between the 38 special and the 357 mag power wise.The 10 mm will kill deer cleanly at 100 yards.The gun you have will work great out to around 40 yards.I wouldn't try it pass 40 yards with the shorter barrel and semi auto.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Big58cal on December 21, 2007, 10:35:40 AM
The gun you have will work great out to around 40 yards.I wouldn't try it pass 40 yards with the shorter barrel and semi auto.

That's only if you can keep all of your shots within something the size of a paper plate. O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Blood_Trail on January 15, 2008, 10:47:39 AM
I've killed many a hog with a .40. But i like the way my .357 Sig performs better.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: MOSPARKY on January 15, 2008, 12:55:17 PM
One thing to remember, Those Target rounds I'm guessing are not jacketed and the hollow points are. That jacketing changes alot of things and it probably won't hit in the same place your target rounds do. Practice with the hollow points and reset your sights to match, before you hunt.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: bighoytman on January 18, 2008, 09:25:42 AM
well i have a deer hanging that the cops had to shoot last night because rear end was hurt.He hit it on left side gut area angled up thru chest cavity took out heart bullet is still in deer I will post pictures of it when I find it.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: John Andrews on January 20, 2008, 10:42:55 AM
That's only if you can keep all of your shots within something the size of a paper plate. O0
  O0 BC nailed it. Being able to put the bullet where it needs to go is the #1 thing. 40 yard accurate pistol shots are more difficult than many folks realize.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 20, 2008, 02:32:33 PM
  O0 BC nailed it. Being able to put the bullet where it needs to go is the #1 thing. 40 yard accurate pistol shots are more difficult than many folks realize.
Agreed, I always thought of myself to be a very good shot----well that was with a rifle. The first time I shot the M9 pistol I realized that I wasn't as good a marksman as I thought. It took allot of practice for me to qualify as an Expert on our pistol qualification test. I am no where near as good with a pistol as I am with a rifle, but I can more than hold my own! The thing with the pistol is that you have to practice ALLOT to get good with it!!!! Yes, a 40 yard shot with a pistol is ALLOT harder than most people realize.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: bighoytman on January 20, 2008, 03:09:41 PM
40 yrds with a handgun is hard the longer the barreled guns will help with this giving you a longer sight radius.but practice practice is a must.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: digndeep400 on January 20, 2008, 04:01:21 PM
my G-20 (10mm) has a 6'' barrel and i can hit a plate at 60 yrds 95% of the time 8) but i have a rest ;D
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Big58cal on January 20, 2008, 05:35:23 PM
my G-20 (10mm) has a 6'' barrel and i can hit a plate at 60 yrds 95% of the time 8) but i have a rest ;D

Where can you hit the pie plate 100% of the time?  That's going to be your limit for an ethical shot on a deer.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 20, 2008, 11:03:52 PM
Where can you hit the pie plate 100% of the time?  That's going to be your limit for an ethical shot on a deer.
O0 Exactly, with the already low terminal velocity with the pistol round---you hav to make sure that the shot is well placed and dang near perfect!
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: digndeep400 on January 20, 2008, 11:07:11 PM
well i can ,but i have to take in to consideration the occasional earthquake ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: BBF on January 20, 2008, 11:41:19 PM
Not to discourage  you from using your pistol, how about having buckshot or a slug along for you scattergun?
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 21, 2008, 12:56:43 AM
Not to discourage  you from using your pistol, how about having buckshot or a slug along for you scattergun?
Very good point!!!!  O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Ks_Sniper on January 21, 2008, 01:48:32 AM
Not to discourage  you from using your pistol, how about having buckshot or a slug along for you scattergun?

Or you could always use the infamous cutload. O0 Works well with break action shotguns. O0 I know a fella (guy I originally heard it from) who carries some cutloads in his pocket just in case. :roll:
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: John Andrews on January 21, 2008, 10:41:24 AM
Agreed, I always thought of myself to be a very good shot----well that was with a rifle. The first time I shot the M9 pistol I realized that I wasn't as good a marksman as I thought. It took allot of practice for me to qualify as an Expert on our pistol qualification test. I am no where near as good with a pistol as I am with a rifle, but I can more than hold my own! The thing with the pistol is that you have to practice ALLOT to get good with it!!!! Yes, a 40 yard shot with a pistol is ALLOT harder than most people realize.
How true! We are stuck with the M9s, not very accurate to start with. Qualifying with the M9 is tough. I do good with the rifle, but really have to crank down to do a decent job qualifying with the M9. Even though the military is going back to the .45, we will be the last to be issued .45s.  :'(
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: bighoytman on January 21, 2008, 11:26:24 AM
well most of my handgun hunting is done with a 44 mag. I got the 40 mostly for a carry gun but had to try it out for deer.I  personally like to use the handgun adds a new challenge to the hunt.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 21, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
How true! We are stuck with the M9s, not very accurate to start with. Qualifying with the M9 is tough. I do good with the rifle, but really have to crank down to do a decent job qualifying with the M9. Even though the military is going back to the .45, we will be the last to be issued .45s.  :'(
HECK YEAH!!!!!!!!! I had no idea that the Military was transitioning back to the .45!!!!! O0 Do you know if a company has won the contract? If so, I would really love it to be Kimber!!!! O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: BBF on January 22, 2008, 10:24:16 AM
I was wondering why they ever changed to the 9mm. Was it because the 9mm is more of a international round and just about every country in the world cranks them out.

Should I feel the need to arm myself with a handgun it would be in cal 45 ACP
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Blood_Trail on January 22, 2008, 10:38:52 AM
I was wondering why they ever changed to the 9mm. Was it because the 9mm is more of a international round and just about every country in the world cranks them out.

Should I feel the need to arm myself with a handgun it would be in cal 45 ACP

I willing to bet because of firepower.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Blood_Trail on January 22, 2008, 10:40:18 AM
How true! We are stuck with the M9s, not very accurate to start with. Qualifying with the M9 is tough. I do good with the rifle, but really have to crank down to do a decent job qualifying with the M9. Even though the military is going back to the .45, we will be the last to be issued .45s.  :'(

Quite the contary. If the M9 is good for anything, that's punching holes in paper. I shot competion in the Marines using stock M9's.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: John Andrews on January 22, 2008, 10:45:48 AM
HECK YEAH!!!!!!!!! I had no idea that the Military was transitioning back to the .45!!!!! O0 Do you know if a company has won the contract? If so, I would really love it to be Kimber!!!! O0
Yes, a company has won the .45 contract, but I can't remember who it was. Some special forces have already transitioned back to the .45, but I think they are using the old 1911 until the new pistols are available.

The reason our military went to the 9mm is because it being a NATO round. Dumb thing to do, considering what a lousy round it is. The young generation stationed in the Sandbox has found that out, the hard way.  :sad:  >:(  :tickedoff
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 22, 2008, 11:38:23 AM
Yes, a company has won the .45 contract, but I can't remember who it was. Some special forces have already transitioned back to the .45, but I think they are using the old 1911 until the new pistols are available.

The reason our military went to the 9mm is because it being a NATO round. Dumb thing to do, considering what a lousy round it is. The young generation stationed in the Sandbox has found that out, the hard way.  :sad:  >:(  :tickedoff
I know for a fact that the Marine Corps operators are using the Kimbers, and they are a great pistol. Hopefully, the rest of the military will be issued Kimbers as well. As for the 9mm round, yes it is a very lousy round!! When fighting the crazies over in the sand bow, you need as much knock down power as possible!
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Big58cal on January 22, 2008, 12:54:37 PM
When fighting the crazies over in the sand bow, you need as much knock down power as possible!

And that's why they call it the .50 cal "Desert" Eagle. O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Techno on January 23, 2008, 12:05:44 AM
You all make me feel pretty good about shooting a pistol.The last time I shot we were shooting at 30 yards calling shots.Once I was 4 inches off from my mark.

I wasn`t using a rest.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 23, 2008, 12:54:02 AM
And that's why they call it the .50 cal "Desert" Eagle. O0
Sounds fine to me, however, that call is to be made by people way above my pay grade!!! ;D
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Blood_Trail on January 23, 2008, 12:15:56 PM
You all make me feel pretty good about shooting a pistol.The last time I shot we were shooting at 30 yards calling shots.Once I was 4 inches off from my mark.

I wasn`t using a rest.

Looks like you need to practice more! I put five rounds touching each other at 25 yards, with left and right hand, shooting off hand two weeks ago! First time I shot my pistol in a year! O0 ;D
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Techno on January 23, 2008, 01:08:24 PM
Looks like you need to practice more! I put five rounds touching each other at 25 yards, with left and right hand, shooting off hand two weeks ago! First time I shot my pistol in a year! O0 ;D

Well I`d hope so.I bet you have shot a pistol alot more than I have.I bet I have shot a pistol about 30 times in my life.Lets not forget the gun I did that with is touted as a piece of junk.

I bet the gun you can do that with is of a higher quality than mine too isn`t it.Everyone ALWAYS says quality makes a difference.

Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Ks_Sniper on January 23, 2008, 02:01:07 PM
Looks like you need to practice more! I put five rounds touching each other at 25 yards, with left and right hand, shooting off hand two weeks ago! First time I shot my pistol in a year! O0 ;D

Sorry, BT, but I call BS... ;D 25yds is a good distance for a handgun and even the best shots I know can't do that. I've got a Ruger Mark 2 I've been shooting fairly regularly for just over 20yrs. I know that gun inside and out. At 100yds (roughly), I can generally come within a few inches of the clay pigeons I like to setup as targets. Point is, at 25yds, I can't do that with this pistol either. Maybe that makes me a bad shot (bring it ;) ) but I still call BS. O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Big58cal on January 23, 2008, 03:04:40 PM
Sorry, BT, but I call BS... ;D 25yds is a good distance for a handgun and even the best shots I know can't do that. I've got a Ruger Mark 2 I've been shooting fairly regularly for just over 20yrs. I know that gun inside and out. At 100yds (roughly), I can generally come within a few inches of the clay pigeons I like to setup as targets. Point is, at 25yds, I can't do that with this pistol either. Maybe that makes me a bad shot (bring it ;) ) but I still call BS. O0

Now Ks, just cause you can't do it, it doesn't mean that it isn't possible.   :roll:
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Ks_Sniper on January 23, 2008, 03:10:34 PM
Oh, and Ks..........  Be aware that for you to "pass the test" you have to just graze all of yours, knocking them out. O0  LMAO!!! ;D

Now Ks, just cause you can't do it, it doesn't mean that it isn't possible.   :roll:

You were saying? ;D O0 :evil:
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Big58cal on January 23, 2008, 03:25:28 PM
You were saying? ;D O0 :evil:

Last "shooting" I remember you talking about was going out to the desert and harassing the jackrabbit population.  Not that you actually "hit" any, but filled the ground full of lead everywhere around them.

So...........  You were saying? :wink: :roll:
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Ks_Sniper on January 23, 2008, 03:30:44 PM
Last "shooting" I remember you talking about was going out to the desert and harassing the jackrabbit population.  Not that you actually "hit" any, but filled the ground full of lead everywhere around them.

So...........  You were saying? :wink: :roll:

LOL ;D ;D ;D Yes, I punched holes in the area. That was on fast moving jacks surrounded by sagebrush and not a big male fox squirrel that happened to stop with his head in front of a tree trunk. :roll: Even you KY boys should be able to notice the differences inherent in those two kinds of hunting. O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Big58cal on January 23, 2008, 04:23:41 PM
LOL ;D ;D ;D Yes, I punched holes in the area. That was on fast moving jacks surrounded by sagebrush and not a big male fox squirrel that happened to stop with his head in front of a tree trunk. :roll: Even you KY boys should be able to notice the differences inherent in those two kinds of hunting. O0

No, not really.  We hunt mainly gray squirrels in trees here, so it's pretty much the same as your "fast moving jacks surrounded by sagebrush". O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 23, 2008, 10:31:43 PM
Sorry, BT, but I call BS... ;D 25yds is a good distance for a handgun and even the best shots I know can't do that. I've got a Ruger Mark 2 I've been shooting fairly regularly for just over 20yrs. I know that gun inside and out. At 100yds (roughly), I can generally come within a few inches of the clay pigeons I like to setup as targets. Point is, at 25yds, I can't do that with this pistol either. Maybe that makes me a bad shot (bring it ;) ) but I still call BS. O0
Nah, I've seen plenty of Marines, like BT, shoot that good. I personally can't shoot a pistol that good, but I have seen it done plenty of times by those Marines that shoot in matches!
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: MOSPARKY on January 23, 2008, 11:06:38 PM
The guy that sold me my 44 Mag,is that kinda shot.  50 yds he can keep them all inside a coffee cup off hand and with a rest it's a one hole group. He's a natural in most things like that, but you also gotta remember he shot alot to tighten them that much. We started doing the math, and it turn out he put over  ton of lead through the one gun he sold me, alone. I can't shoot near that good, but if I doubt the gun or sights , I hand it to him. He prints me a clover-leaf, 5-shot group and says " it ain't the gun". Even with the one ton 44.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Blood_Trail on January 24, 2008, 10:21:09 AM
 ;D ;D ;D KS_Sniper, you so  :uglystupid2 :idiot2! I wouldn't pull your chain. The captain of my shooting team, CW04 Nelson, was a great coach. He was double distinguise in pistol and the same with the rifle. We used to make bets (my team) for beer during pratice. I bet Nelson a 12 pack that he could not hit a Gummy Jolly Lifesaver (the Clear ones so it would blend with the white of the target) at 25 yards (offhand). I even taped it to the target at 11 o'clock becuz I knew he was used to aiming center mass. I told him he had 5 shots. The second shot, he put a bullet right thru the CENTER of the Jolly Lifesaver and didn't even break it! Left a grease mark in the center. If I lieing, I'm crying, and I aint shed a tear...


Hoskins,

See if you can pull up a CW0??? Nelson the email. He's an airwinger. I'll find out his first name tonite. Look him up and he'll verfiy that story!
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Ks_Sniper on January 24, 2008, 11:36:44 AM
Ok, BT. I believe ya. BC is right that just cause I can't do it, and neither can anybody else I know, don't mean it can't, and isn't done. O0

And BC, I thought you'd know that fox squirrels will stop long enough for you to settle in, breathe properly, take careful aim, and then take the shot. ;D For how big those suckers get, I really am surprised they are so quick to stop. ??? That squirrel sat there for a good 2 or 3 seconds for me to get that shot.

Ya know, I just realized somethin... Even if I had my ex- come on here to verify the story, I will be defending that shot for the rest of my life. ;D ;D ;D :roll: :knuppel2 :tickedoff
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 24, 2008, 01:50:22 PM
Hoskins,

See if you can pull up a CW0??? Nelson the email. He's an airwinger. I'll find out his first name tonite. Look him up and he'll verfiy that story!
I'll look him up on the Global and send you his email via PM. O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Blood_Trail on January 24, 2008, 02:53:24 PM
I'll look him up on the Global and send you his email via PM. O0

Thanks alot! BTW where you stationed at?
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 24, 2008, 03:55:40 PM
Thanks alot! BTW where you stationed at?
Unfortunately I'm a recruiter in Knoxville, TN >:( I was stationed at Lejeune prior to this duty. When my time is up on recruiting, in 8 months O0, I'll be heading back down to Camp Lejeune. Where were you stationed at? Where did you shoot the inturmurals at? 
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Big58cal on January 24, 2008, 09:08:12 PM
Ok, BT. I believe ya. BC is right that just cause I can't do it, and neither can anybody else I know, don't mean it can't, and isn't done. O0

And BC, I thought you'd know that fox squirrels will stop long enough for you to settle in, breathe properly, take careful aim, and then take the shot. ;D For how big those suckers get, I really am surprised they are so quick to stop. ??? That squirrel sat there for a good 2 or 3 seconds for me to get that shot.


Oh, I know about fox squirrels.  They'll sit and let you eat a sandwich while you're getting the crosshairs ready.  Gray squirrels on the other hand....... :knuppel2  The fox squirrel population is pretty low around here though.  They're so big and dumb, they don't last too long around us KY Rednecks. ;D O0

Ks, I guess you've figured out by now that you're not a legend in your own mind anymore when it comes to shooting. ;D  It must have been a crushing blow to your ego when you figured it out. ;D ;D ;D  Bloodtrail isn't that far from you.  Maybe he can give you some shooting lessons. O0  If you're around the KY area near the end of summer, stop by and I'll let the boy give you some lessons also. O0 ;D

Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 24, 2008, 10:48:47 PM
Oh, I know about fox squirrels.  They'll sit and let you eat a sandwich while you're getting the crosshairs ready.  Gray squirrels on the other hand....... :knuppel2  The fox squirrel population is pretty low around here though.  They're so big and dumb, they don't last too long around us KY Rednecks. ;D O0
I know that it was a big deal for us to go on a squirrel hunting down in Montecello, KY on Lake Cumberland because we got to hunt fox squirrels. There aren't any fox squirrels back in the mountains, only grays. That's when I noticed that a fox was a heck of allot easier to kill than a gray. Plus the land was flat compared to hunting back in the rugged terrain of the mountians. Nothing like a bunch of hillbillies making a special 3 1/2 hour trip just to go squirrel hunting!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: BBF on January 25, 2008, 10:25:12 AM
somewhat back to the original topic. Didn't Glock come out with a 45 cal round somewhat shorter then the 45 ACP ?
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: digndeep400 on January 25, 2008, 10:56:56 AM
yes ,the 45 GAP
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Blood_Trail on January 25, 2008, 12:32:29 PM
I know that it was a big deal for us to go on a squirrel hunting down in Montecello, KY on Lake Cumberland because we got to hunt fox squirrels. There aren't any fox squirrels back in the mountains, only grays. That's when I noticed that a fox was a heck of allot easier to kill than a gray. Plus the land was flat compared to hunting back in the rugged terrain of the mountians. Nothing like a bunch of hillbillies making a special 3 1/2 hour trip just to go squirrel hunting!!!!! ;D


I shot at Jacksonville (stone bay) twice and once in Hawaii
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Ks_Sniper on January 25, 2008, 03:46:33 PM
Oh, I know about fox squirrels.  They'll sit and let you eat a sandwich while you're getting the crosshairs ready.  Gray squirrels on the other hand....... :knuppel2  The fox squirrel population is pretty low around here though.  They're so big and dumb, they don't last too long around us KY Rednecks. ;D O0

Ks, I guess you've figured out by now that you're not a legend in your own mind anymore when it comes to shooting. ;D  It must have been a crushing blow to your ego when you figured it out. ;D ;D ;D  Bloodtrail isn't that far from you.  Maybe he can give you some shooting lessons. O0  If you're around the KY area near the end of summer, stop by and I'll let the boy give you some lessons also. O0 ;D

Ohhhh SNAP! ;D ;D ;D Straight to the heart, eh BC? :roll: If I can swing it, you can bet your keester I'll be in KY around the end of Summer. :knuppel2 I've hunted grays and know what you mean. those suckers are built for speed and know how to utilize it.

Hos, I know what you mean about making those long trips just for some squirrel. I still have the contact information (and syubsequently permission to hunt) for a pecan orchard that goes untouched year after year. The owner told me you could look out into the hills around the orchard in the early AM and see swarms of squirrels migrate down into the pecan trees. One of his friends is a CO and was offering to give me a depredation permit so I could take as many squirrel as I wanted.

The owner also said they had to do that every few years with deer to. Last time, he brought in 6 hunters and in 3 days they harvest over 50 deer from the orchard alone. Once the hunters had their freezers full, the rest went to Hunters Feeding the Hungry. O0

I never made it down there, but the 2 hours getting there would definitely have been worth it. ;D :evil: O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 26, 2008, 03:40:26 AM
I never made it down there, but the 2 hours getting there would definitely have been worth it. ;D :evil: O0
:shock: with an opportunity to hunt land like that----I'd drive well over 2 hours to get to it, and not think twice about it O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: John Andrews on January 26, 2008, 09:18:03 AM
:shock: with an opportunity to hunt land like that----I'd drive well over 2 hours to get to it, and not think twice about it O0
Me too!  O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: BBF on January 26, 2008, 10:28:16 AM
me three.. Border or no Border :twisted:
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 26, 2008, 11:18:00 AM
So KS, where exactly is this Honey Hole you speak of? ??? :twisted: ;D An EXACT address would be sufficent!!!! O0 ;D
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: MOSPARKY on January 27, 2008, 12:17:09 PM
So, what time of year do the squirrels start hitting the pecan orchards ? Will they hit it for blossoms, early summer for green fruits,ect ??


 I ask cuz the oldest daughters BF has some hunting property near a major orchard in central Missouri. He seems to think He might be able to get me access to it or maybe some of the neighboring smaller orchards. Some may not be orchards at all, but small groves in someones yard or back 40. This in a pretty rural area, where you don't turn a key for less than a 1/2 hour drive and a yard might be a 3 acre pasture.
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: John Andrews on January 29, 2008, 12:00:44 PM
What's most important hunting deer with a pistol is being able to put the bullet exactly where it needs to go. Get yourself a pistol and proper ammo with enough umph to do the job, and make SURE you can place every round within the vitals at the distances you will be shooting.

Some trips to the range is advised if you want to take home the venison. You have to be familiar with what you are hunting with. A few boxes of shells is a cheap price to pay if you really intend on taking home the bacon.

I see a lot of dead deer and hear a lot of hunting stories at work. We pistol shoot quite a few deer some years at work, deer injured or sick. We are shooting them with our sidearms and issued FMJ ball ammo, so it's most important for the first shot to kill the deer.

We all know folks that only shoot their deer gun when they see their first deer.  :roll: No range time or sighting in with the ammo they will be hunting with.  :idiot2  :crazy2  :uglystupid2  Most of those folks are just going for an armed walk in the woods or just cripple game.  :tickedoff
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: Ks_Sniper on January 29, 2008, 12:41:01 PM
So, what time of year do the squirrels start hitting the pecan orchards ? Will they hit it for blossoms, early summer for green fruits,ect ??

MO, the guy told me that they start coming down in droves by mid August. he said they love it when the almonds are grown, yet still green because they're still soft. They'll continue through the rest of the season, but not in as large quantities.

Hos, the area where the guy's located is in south east KS. I met his mom at a farmers market and then him over the phone. He said there were pecan and apple orchards all over the area and they all had squirrel problems. I remember trying to set up an official GPS gathering one year at his place. As with the hog hunt, it petered out. His name is Steve... His area code is 620... And the last number in his phone number is 7. :roll: :evil: ;D ;D ;D

I actually did give his contact info to one of our members. Haven't seen him around for 3 years. :-\ Fool me twice... O0 I tell ya what though. If I ever get back that way, and I REALLY hope to, then I'll send ya an email and we'll see if we can't set something up. O0
Title: Re: Deer with pistol
Post by: hoskins on January 31, 2008, 08:34:50 PM

Hos, the area where the guy's located is in south east KS. I met his mom at a farmers market and then him over the phone. He said there were pecan and apple orchards all over the area and they all had squirrel problems. I remember trying to set up an official GPS gathering one year at his place. As with the hog hunt, it petered out. His name is Steve... His area code is 620... And the last number in his phone number is 7. :roll: :evil: ;D ;D ;D

I actually did give his contact info to one of our members. Haven't seen him around for 3 years. :-\ Fool me twice... O0 I tell ya what though. If I ever get back that way, and I REALLY hope to, then I'll send ya an email and we'll see if we can't set something up. O0
Sounds like a plan to me!!!!!!!!! O0