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Title: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Tenderfoot on February 15, 2009, 09:16:02 PM
I got a chance to hunt with a couple of realy well trained GSPs which were amazing. They never chased down flushing birds, they obeyed comands fairly well, and had a nice work ethic and attitude, plus they are far more pleasing to the eye than the boney english pointers. I'd heard that they work well in water also, and would retrieve ducks. I find it hard to imagine such a well rounded dog. Can they realy retrieve ducks well, or this their weekest point-the aspect which was traded off for pointing ability?  Just curious what you guys think of the breed in general and specificaly as a blind-buddy.
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Ks_Sniper on February 16, 2009, 01:08:27 AM
I had me one a few years back. She was a great dog. O0
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: John Andrews on February 16, 2009, 08:57:05 AM
Yes, they will fetch a duck but they are not cold water dogs. They are just not built for it and will suffer working in cold water.
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Juandogg on February 16, 2009, 07:26:19 PM
do fish swim  :roll: seem some that could put a lab to shame  O0
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Tenderfoot on February 16, 2009, 08:16:05 PM
When we speak of cold, are we refering to florida waters with a mean january temp of 50, or truely fridgid waters near 35-ish? I imagine the more rare longhair with a vest could handle these waters well enough, no? The more I learn about this breed, the more it seems to fit every aspect I would require of a dog.

I think I'll be setting my sights on one in the next couple of years. I hear the pounds in plantation country hold lots of good dogs without enough stamina to keep up with the quail buggies(and are rejected by the bigtime guides), which suits me fine, since I cannot walk near as fast as a polaris.
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Juandogg on February 16, 2009, 08:57:36 PM
I dont think they would have any problems with that warm of water  O0 Ya could probably do good with a pound hound  but jest cause they say they got rid of it cause it wouldnt keep doesnt mean thats actually why they got rid of it  I find it hard believe that after spendin tons of time and money of a guide dog prospect that they would jest give it to a pound cause it wouldnt keep up  ???  Ive watched my kinda neighbors shorthair break ice to get a duck and also seen it lock on point at a pheasent 20 yards away from it  O0 O0 Awesome all around dog  but still hard to beat a Honky Tonk bred pointer in the pheasent field  :twisted:
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Tenderfoot on February 16, 2009, 10:53:41 PM
Oh no, I am not saying they claim any specific default, I just know with enough looking you can come across a good dog that was rejected for some reason or another, or merely overlooked(maybe didn't show potential in it's first year?)-but a good enough dog can be had that way.

Now what is this honky tonk dog you speak of?
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Big58cal on February 17, 2009, 10:58:36 AM

Now what is this honky tonk dog you speak of?


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Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Ks_Sniper on February 17, 2009, 01:01:30 PM
How did you get a picture of my ex-wife after she started hormone replacement therapy? :evil:
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Techno on February 17, 2009, 01:22:01 PM
My uncle says he got too old for coon hounds and now has GSP's.We just talked about taking one of his dogs coon hunting with Spook once it warms up...seems he got to old for temps below 50  ;D

You know I will get pics up as soon as we get out  O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Juandogg on February 18, 2009, 12:31:39 AM
Honky Tonk is a line of pointers that has a lot of NSTRA and the like champions  Here is one of my favorites Honky Tonk Icon owned one of the finest bird dog men I have been around
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: John Andrews on February 18, 2009, 02:47:00 AM
Honky Tonk is a line of pointers that has a lot of NSTRA and the like champions  Here is one of my favorites Honky Tonk Icon owned one of the finest bird dog men I have been around
Would happen to be AB?
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Tenderfoot on February 18, 2009, 02:18:55 PM
I think I may need to rephrase this post to "can GP's work as waterfowling retrievers"-which most of you implied they can. I know they are great with downed quail. They seem somehwat high strung for sitting in a blind most of the morning.

Those Honky Tonks are cool, but I bet they don't come cheap.
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Juandogg on February 18, 2009, 04:56:20 PM
Would happen to be AB?
nope only in his wet dreams  :twisted: ;D ;D


Tenderness they would work it would take lots of patience and trainin but ya could get one to do that
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: John Andrews on February 19, 2009, 10:07:48 AM
My brother's German Shorthairs retrieve really great. He's hunted with them for many years.
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Tenderfoot on February 19, 2009, 08:40:03 PM
nope only in his wet dreams  :twisted: ;D ;D


Tenderness they would work it would take lots of patience and trainin but ya could get one to do that

Or would it be easier to teach a lab/golden to point ;D?
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Juandogg on February 24, 2009, 10:48:39 AM
Or would it be easier to teach a lab/golden to point ;D?
Get a pointing lab all the stuff ya want in a lab plus pointing bred into it  O0 as fer a golden  :uglystupid2 :uglystupid2 :idiot2
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Tenderfoot on February 25, 2009, 11:42:50 PM
Yeah, I haven't ever seen a pointing lab, though. I'd heard they are nominal pointers, or that the realy good ones are super expensive. Have you ever actualy worked with one?
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Juandogg on February 26, 2009, 07:45:34 AM
worked with a few of them  One could put a lot of pointers to shame the rest were average. Bird dogs are one of them things that to get a rockstar ya gotta pay through the nose fer it but ya can pick up a 100 dollar puppy and put a lot of time into it and get a dog ya think is really good. Its all in the eye of the beholder. So dont go out and get a cheap pup then only spend half the time with it ya should and wonder why ya think this dog is good but people who know bird dogs think its a pos
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Tenderfoot on February 26, 2009, 10:57:59 PM
Yeah, time is an issue. I aint fully sure I'll put enough time into a dog during the off season to make it a wise or responsible undertaking on my part. During the hunting season that is all I am focused on and put everything else on the back burner...we'd be in the woods and swamps often and training in the yard when we weren't. But during fishing season, I just don't know how motivated I'd be, not to mention my huge backlog of tasks that were put off during the season.
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Techno on February 26, 2009, 11:09:13 PM
To have good dogs you have to think with your wallet not your heart.Do not lie to yourself and cull with an iron fist  O0

Some folks just have no heart when it comes to telling themselves this ain't working.
Always remember this...

There is nobility in having convictions...but to stand by those convictions  takes more than a whim!

Most folks fall short in the latter.
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: curdawgs1976 on March 28, 2009, 11:27:32 AM
i have done quite a bit of bird hunting with several GSPs and have seen several that would do anything asked of them i have also seen two that were pretty fair tree dogs these dogs like the weimeraner were bred to be an all purpose dog to find and locate all manners of game and either bay or point according to what it was after they also make great retrievers but like anything else you will only get out of them what youput in another breed you might think on and research is the airedale they excell at just about anything that they are taught they will point retrieve tree and gaurd the house from two and four legged adversaries as well as be your best bud just a few thoughts to ponder
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Tenderfoot on March 30, 2009, 10:19:58 PM
Cool, I'll check the breed out- as for guarding the house- does anybody know if GSPs or airedales are bark-guard dogs, or attack guard dogs? I've always hated those dogs that get all worked up over the slightest person driving by on the road 400 yards away.
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Juandogg on March 31, 2009, 07:11:04 AM
does anybody know if GSPs or airedales are bark-guard dogs, or attack guard dogs?
wtf are ya talkin bout yeah theyll bark and if yer lucky they might put their life on the line fer yers
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: Tenderfoot on March 31, 2009, 11:52:54 PM
Wait....what the heck was I talkin bout. I'm getting like biden over here ;D
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: curdawgs1976 on April 02, 2009, 04:16:42 PM
alot of the GSP that i have been around are really wary of strangers until they get used to them but as far as the airedales go they are very loyal animals and are very aloof around strangers and are very good judges of a persons character and have zero problems tying up with anything or anyone that they feel are up to no good but on the other hand they are very biddable and intelligent and really love everyone that they see as being your or their friend or family
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: rice river on July 28, 2010, 05:22:39 PM
The GSP is a Versatile Hunting Dog. They will retrieve waterfowl no problem.  You just don't want to use them in cold/icy water because they don't have a second coat to keep the warm.  I personally preferr the gsp, vizslas and weimers to the lab because they don't shed as much and don't have the oily coat so they don't have wet dog smell.  Plus by the time your back to the truck they are dry and not soaking your seats.  Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Can German Pointers retrieve?
Post by: bohicajuan on July 28, 2010, 06:00:46 PM
Friend of mine had one but he didn't care for it too much.

First thing, the dog reoccupied the Ruhr valley, then it annexed the Sudentland, then it invaded Poland and conquered France in 3 weeks.

But the main reason he didn't like it was that instead of pointing at quail, it would capture one first and torture it until it told him where the covey's were.

Then instead of flushing the covey he would first offer the birds a chance to surrender, but when the quail came out their with hands up, the dam* dog would kill them all with an MG-42!

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