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Just Jawin At Camp / Re: Ever been to Birney Montana, I haven't either...
« Last post by D45/70 on August 16, 2017, 03:00:06 PM »
Yes a good deal.
 Kinda come and get it price.
 We will probably do a little turkey hunting there too...
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Just Jawin At Camp / Re: Ever been to Birney Montana, I haven't either...
« Last post by John Andrews on August 16, 2017, 03:27:56 AM »
 :shock: Yikes is right, D! That's sure a long haul. I hope your boy got a good deal!
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Just Jawin At Camp / Re: Good Things Come to An End. It Sucks Too!
« Last post by MOSPARKY on August 15, 2017, 09:52:12 PM »
Seems to be growing numbers of hunters around here, but I'm afraid the number of sportsmen is also in sharp decline. Personally I think outdoor writers and hunting shows bare a big part of the blame.
 Anytime you get a couple guys together there is going to be competition. Just the way we are made. I can do a job in an hour, with one assistant that time gets cut to about 20 mins. The math don't work until you factor in the competition factor. Deer hunting would have stayed at who scores more consistantly year after year or more in the bag if the shows and writers weren't pushing the focus to body mass, antler mass and point scores. Who got the nicer buck ?
 I ask "did it eat better ?" Doubtful. Personally I think does and yearlings make far better tablefare. I won't pass a good size buck simply because bigger deer means more table meat, but will I pass a doe or yearling... not likely. I couldn't tell you how many hunters I know eating tag soup because they were counting points.
 Then comes the whole who's got the latest and greatest. Most of those gadgets and gear are more designed to catch hunters purse strings than put meat on the table. Matching camo in the latest and greatest patterns...is it really that much better than Veitnam era jungle camo or grandpa's old red and black checked shirt ? I have my doubts. Especially if deer see in black and white only.
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Just Jawin At Camp / Ever been to Birney Montana, I haven't either...
« Last post by D45/70 on August 15, 2017, 12:50:24 PM »
  Holly crud !
 A 6 hour drive one way! The boy bought a Snowmobile there and
 we have to go get it Yikes .
https://www.google.com/search?site=....0....0...1..64.psy-ab..1.1.182.0.T9072IK2qC8
Looks like we will find out what kind of gas mileage my ford is going to get...
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Just Jawin At Camp / Re: Good Things Come to An End. It Sucks Too!
« Last post by John Andrews on August 15, 2017, 04:20:13 AM »
 O0 Well said, bo! Yes, it's a real shame, the attitude change. We have more trophy hunters than regular hunters. It's all about size, antler points, skull size, and total kill counts for them.  >:(

It's rare to see another small game hunter. Most are in their deer stand watching and waiting for a record book monster buck.

I think a lot of TV hunting shows encourage many hunters to get out there and compete.  :tickedoff
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Just Jawin At Camp / Re: Everybody Doing Okay?
« Last post by John Andrews on August 15, 2017, 04:03:46 AM »
I have been building a new deck out back on my days off, has been kicking my butt. I have two more weekends to get er done before hunting season opens. Only went fishing twice this year, is a disgrace.

On the upside, all is ready for Sept. 2 hunting season.  :twisted:
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Just Jawin At Camp / Re: GM 5.3 max motor ? Maybe the V6? I need a truck
« Last post by John Andrews on August 15, 2017, 03:55:43 AM »
She says I can drive it every other weekend the rest of the time it's going to be hers!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :-X
  ;D Spoken like a wife!


My wife has her own vehicle, leaves mine alone, period. She is convinced my truck is too big for her to handle. She is correct.  O0 NOBODY drives my truck other than myself.  :knuppel2

About V6 engines, they have plenty of power. The T100 I had came with a V6 and had power to spare.
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I Hunt It All ! / Re: Dove hunting
« Last post by John Andrews on August 15, 2017, 03:48:28 AM »
 O0 Spoken by an expert, bo!
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Just Jawin At Camp / Good Things Come to An End. It Sucks Too!
« Last post by bohicajuan on August 14, 2017, 05:34:17 PM »
Since 1984 they have held an outdoor show here called "Buck-A-Rama. It became the thing to go to so you could see and buy all the new hunting stuff. It was always held the first weekend in August. It would open on Friday and run through Saturday and Sunday. It was scheduled to be here again this year, but due to poor sales and decline in attendance from past years it was cancelled.

This past weekend it was held down in Perry, Georgia, but that's a good 2 hour drive one way, and not many people from the Atlanta area were going to put forth that much effort. Neither was I.

We've talked about this before, that a lot of people that grew up hunting deer are now giving it up. Some of it has to due with less money to spend on outdoor stuff, but a lot has to do with the changing attitudes by hunters about hunting. When before it was about going out and enjoying time spent with friends or outdoors, has been replaced by people that think killing is the only reason to go.

They need to kill a deer and it must be a big one. They lease up huge tracts of land and plant gobs of planted fields and buckets of corn and other deer food. They wait for the deer to get a big rack and then they go out and shoot it. It's almost like shooting someones cow or pig. Not much in the way of being a hunter. People who grew up hunting because it was part of their heritage and culture are being replaced by people that don't have the first clue about being sportsman.
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I Hunt It All ! / Re: Dove hunting
« Last post by bohicajuan on August 14, 2017, 04:49:44 PM »
Any thoughts on brands of shells to think about. Probably just going to get a case of remington or something.

Personally I don't think it matters as much the type shotshell used when dove hunting. Your rifle may shoot a particular round better than others, but for dove shoots I'm more concerned about choke settings for the distance from shooter to bird, than what company shotshells I use.

For the forty plus years I've been shooting at doves I have used Remington, Winchester, Federal and Monarch probably 99% of the time. For a 20 gauge load I'd say that 7/8 ounce of lead shot is a good standard to go by.

Some higher brass loads are available in 20 gauge but you might have a hard time finding them in size #7 1/2 or #8 shot. You might have to go up to size #6, but since you're shooting a 20 gauge I don't see much of a problem. Opening day, if the birds are flying, you might wind up shooting 6 or 7 boxes of shells before you get the limit. Our limit is 15, and it is much harder to hit dove than quail or pheasant.

The modified choke should not constrict the pattern that much if you take a shot out to about 35-40 yards. 40 yards will probably be your longest shot with a 20 gauge, regardless of shot size. When I'm shooting a 12 gauge I still keep my shots as close to 40 yards as possible.

If you have the time and ability you can take 4 pieces of typing paper, draw an aiming point in the center, and staple them together so you have 2 on top and 2 on bottom. Then tack them to a tree or better yet to a shooting target stand.

Then pace off about 35 yards and then use the hood of your car or truck as a shooting rest and fire from a stable position at the paper, aiming for the center. If you have different brands of shot shell you can use a round from each to shoot the paper and check for the tightness of the pattern. It's really cheap and effective.

The 4 pieces of typing paper are not meant to be the dove, but doves hardly ever fly in a straight line, and they dart and dive and go up and down faster than you can keep the bead on them. By using the 4 pieces of paper you get an idea of the kind of "flack" pattern your shotgun is putting out, and this imho is the best way to see how the load you're using compares to the others.

A friend of mine hunts with a 20 gauge Remington and swears by Remington SureShot Heavy Dove Loads. You get an ounce of 7 1/2 shot and he has been knocking them down with those loads for years. He shoots a modified choke even on opening day because the spread is wide enough and with enough energy that it spreads enough at close range for low flying birds, but retains enough energy when the birds are farther out.

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