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Senate backs allowing guns in national parks
« on: May 13, 2009, 04:22:54 PM »
Senate backs allowing guns in national parks

By MATTHEW DALY - Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON The Senate on Tuesday backed an amendment that would allow people to carry loaded guns in national parks and wildlife refuges.

Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., sponsored the measure, which he said would protect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens. The amendment allows firearms in parks and wildlife refuges, as long as they are allowed by federal, state and local law.

"If an American citizen has a right to carry a firearm in their state, it makes no sense to treat them like a criminal if they pass through a national park while in possession of a firearm," Coburn said.

Twenty-seven Democrats joined 39 Republicans and one independent in supporting the amendment, which was attached to a bill imposing restrictions on credit card companies. The amendment was approved 67-29.

Groups supporting gun control, park rangers and retirees opposed the amendment, which they said went further than a Bush administration policy that briefly allowed loaded handguns in national parks and refuges.

A federal judge blocked the policy in March, two months after it went into effect in the waning days of President George W. Bush's term. The Obama administration has said it will not appeal the court ruling.

"This amendment is much more radical than the regulation promulgated by the Bush administration," said Bryan Faehner, associate director of the National Parks Conservation Association, an advocacy group that opposes guns in parks.

If the measure becomes law "it would not only put park visitors and wildlife at risk, it would change the character and the peaceful and safe atmosphere in our parks," Faehner said.

Faehner's group sent a letter to senators Tuesday stating that Coburn's amendment would allow individuals to openly carry rifles, shotguns, and semiautomatic weapons in national parks. "As a result, individuals could attend ranger-led hikes and campfire programs with their rifles at Yellowstone National Park and other national park treasures across the country," the letter said.

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, called the Senate vote reckless.

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly blocked the Bush rule because she found that the Interior Department had not done the proper analysis, Helmke said, "and now the Senate is basically rushing into this with little or no debate, and no analysis on what impact it will have on the people who use the parks and the wildlife in the parks. I think that's reckless."

Sen. Christopher Dodd, chairman of the Banking Committee, said he hoped the credit card legislation would pass this week. Helmke and Faehner said they would try to get the gun amendment stripped from the bill before final passage.



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Re: Senate backs allowing guns in national parks
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2009, 04:49:36 PM »
Finally something good! All those tree huggers think that people not allowed to carry, they wont get shot. Shows how stupid they realy are. It needs to go back to the western days. You wouldnt see hardly anymore robbing, stealing and violence if everyone had a weapon on hand. But then again, we do have a butt load of retards out there that would have to be culled. O0 O0

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Re: Senate backs allowing guns in national parks
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2009, 07:01:43 PM »
Bravo for the guys with the stones to tack this on to a totally unrelated bill. One that everybody wants badly. Can't hardly beleive it got this far with all the sitting Dems.
 Sounds about right they object to the amendment due to lack of studies done on impact. What a crock. Common sense (ain't that common) will tell you all you need to know about the impact. The vast majority of folks that are going to carry already are. Most will leave the long guns in the truck, except when needed. Most of the parks are closed to hunting, so not much other reason to have a long gun. Hand guns will mostly be concealed, so as not to draw attention to themselves and provoke undue harrassment. Violence and crime are already in the parks, Guns will just make the perps a bit more unsure who might fight back and how. Wildlife can be a danger and folks should have a means to defend themselves from critters, both four legged and two.
 Of course there will be some that will kill wild life claiming it was about to attack and there needs to be some order of qualifing a justified kill. A lack of trophy might help.
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Re: Senate backs allowing guns in national parks
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2009, 03:27:57 AM »
Great!  No matter the laws though, I'm not going into bear country without fifteen .40 180g fmj's ready at the click of a safety. My name isn't Timothy Treadwell!
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Re: Senate backs allowing guns in national parks
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2009, 06:27:49 AM »
You mean you dont want to be a bear turd anytime soon ray? O0 ;D ;D

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Re: Senate backs allowing guns in national parks
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2009, 07:27:29 AM »


santa claus must be strapped
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Re: Senate backs allowing guns in national parks
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2009, 09:12:14 AM »
Treadwell was a class case idiot and I knew the bears would kill him someday. It was just a matter of when. Suicide by bear, not a good way to go. He didn't get his girlfriend killed, she was as much of a moron as he was.  :idiot2 :crazy2 :uglystupid2 :buck2
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Re: Senate backs allowing guns in national parks
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2009, 01:12:51 PM »
Bears are wild animals they have no reason to like him.
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