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Re: 22 for coons
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2009, 12:51:46 PM »
Ya know the reason plotts fight each other? they want to fight the tuffest thing in the timber and there aint nuthin tuffer then a plott hound

Anybody that would hunt a fighting plott dog would show up at a minister's funeral dressed in feathers.  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 22 for coons
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2009, 01:16:34 AM »
Anybody that would hunt a fighting plott dog would show up at a minister's funeral dressed in feathers. ;D ;D ;D
lol  nice
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Re: 22 for coons
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2009, 08:21:22 AM »
Anybody that would hunt a fighting plott dog would show up at a minister's funeral dressed in feathers.  ;D ;D ;D
  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 22 for coons
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2010, 09:55:41 AM »
Well I did a little coonhunting years ago. I still go every now and then but its been awhile. Our "group" used 28ga, 20ga, just about all gauges of shotgun and rimfires. I use to use Winchester Wildcats .22 LR but the last few times I went I used .22 LR Remington Thunderbolts. I mainly trap our coons now. On another subject I really hope a bunch of anti's didnt read this topic. They accuse trappers of being heartless, ignorant and cruel but from what I read in this topic we dont hold a candle to some :idiot2. Anyone that would kill a dog because it wont hunt the way you think it should I'd hate to have babysitting any kids! If you want to see a coon fight a dog? Live trap a 25 or 30 lb boar and turn it loose in a pen with your dog. Hell of alot more sporting then shooting one in the back leg and letting a cripple fight your dog. If it were to escape it will die anyhow. Guess its a good thing I never was a dedicated hound man. Ive killed 600 coon in a year before but put every live one down humanely. If someone shot to wound a coon with us he'd have to pick his ass up as he walked home. No I aint no bunny hugger, Ive killed more animals then most on these forums would in 3 lifetimes but baring something unforeseen or a pure accident 99.99.99% were put down humanely. Hope I stepped on a few toes too, we need to police ourselves if we're going to pass down the outdoor tradition!
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Re: 22 for coons
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2010, 09:14:49 PM »
Well i guess ya have your opion   i have mine  but  have live trapped and guess what either way they end up on the stretcher
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Re: 22 for coons
« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2010, 11:52:14 PM »
We owe it to any animal we're killing/harvesting to do it as humanely as possible. The general public will one day decide whether we can hunt/trap or fish. Statements like the earlier post are counter productive to what mature and ethical hunters believe or need people to see. Anyone hunting that way should be ashamed of themselves and charged with animal cruelty. I believe if you ask 100 other hunters/trappers/outdoorspeople you'll find 99% have the same "opinion". Can you see the glee in PETA's eyes when they steal a topic post off a forum that looks like that? Trust me they do. On another forum we found where they and some other bunny huggers had snagged statements that werent the best to be made about dispatching and a few other things. Turned a few words and it put outdoorspeople in a very bad light. They are reading this now I assure you. They have grungy now accounts that do nothing but cruise the net looking for dates and anything they can use against hunting, trapping, fishing,animal husbandry etc. When they read that post they probably spilled their bottled water all over the keyboard getting it cut and pasted.
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Re: 22 for coons
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2010, 09:33:45 AM »
I don't coon hunt, but I can remember a time when shooting a coon at all to kill it was considered unsportsman.  The coon fought the dogs, end of story.  If you shot it, you shot it with bird shot to make it jump out of the tree.

There's still people that believe that this is the only way to coon hunt.  As long as it is legal for people to do so, then no sportsman should have a problem with it.  Just because I don't do it, doesn't mean that I'm against it.  Everyone has their own opinion as to the way something should be done, but as long as it's legal, no other sportsman should try to belittle any other hunter/fisher/trapper for doing it "their" way.

Constant in-fighting between different "camps" will be the downfall of all hunting/fishing/trapping.  Everyone has different ethical standards on what they think should/shouldn't be done.  Since there's never going to be an agreement on the "ethics" of what should be done, or the way it should be done, the only thing that we can go by are the laws.  If the laws say it's legal, then that's good enough for me.
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Re: 22 for coons
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2010, 10:09:52 AM »
I used to coon hunt a lot. We used to shoot them, of course. Sometimes we would skin some of them before we were done, but usually we had enough fellas along that we could carry quite a few coon and skin them at home.

We ate some of the coon and sold the rest of the carcasses for a dollar each. Coon hides were worth skinning, of course. The money was enough to earn the dogs's keep, with a few dollars left over at the end of coon season. There was a lot of coon back in those days. There is probably just as many coon today, or even more coon nowdays, because not as many folks coon hunt nowdays.

Here in SE Iowa we have a lot of timber and crop fields. It's coon heaven in this part of the state. Plott lives in the opposite corner (NW) of the state where there isn't much timber and of course, not near as many coon.  :sad:

We always used a .22 and head shot the coon. My cousin I hunted with swore .22 shorts worked the best, but I always swore by .22LR.
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Re: 22 for coons
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2010, 02:57:25 PM »
.22 LR is the standard for coonhunting. I imagine 99% of coonhunters use one. I do know a few ole boys that used high brass no.4's among other homemade/hand rolled loads. Onto another subject>>I imagine if a person checks they will find its illegal to shoot to wound an animal so dogs etc can "finish it off". Its illegal here in Illinois, so is shooting a dog because it doesnt hunt like you want it to. I just called my local CO to check for my own peace of mind. Both fall under animal cruelty laws he assured me. I never try to condemn another hunter for their hunting methods or what theyre hunting but when it affects me, mine and all hunters/trappers and their descendents I have a real problem with it. When some city person votes for or against my hunting/trapping rights/priveledges and takes into account methods or practices such as that I will speak out. I know that was common practice years ago, so was deer hunting at night and in July. Does that make it right? It was common 100 years ago to set no.4 size traps with TEETH on land for coons etc. Is that right or appropriate to do now? Would it be right or appropriate for me to do that around where houndsmen are running their dogs? I would have major concerns if I was running hounds where a foothold with a 8 1/2" jawspread with teeth was set. Just because something is traditional/staus quo or maybe even legal doesnt mean its a practice that we should continue. When I trap on land I use the smallest trap that will still hold the target animal. I could use bigger traps but why would I use a trap that is more expensive and could theoriticaly cause more injuries to a non target animal. If I was to use such a large and innappropriate trap then why would I even post the bad decision on an open forum so everyone could see it?
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Re: 22 for coons
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2010, 03:19:39 PM »
Backwoodsman, you need to reread the one post in question.....

Nothin but CB longs for me. Don't hardly penetrate the hide so it doesn't mess the hide up.

That looks to me that he's using it to get the coon out of the tree with it, and then let the dogs have at it.  If that's the way it's done in his part of the country, why should you have a problem with it?

Also, your analogy about the traps with teeth doesn't mean anything.  They aren't legal, so they can't be used, so they don't enter into this discussion any whatsoever.

Is hunting deer with dogs legal in your area?  It's not in mine, but that doesn't mean that I've got a problem with it.  How about cutting the head off of an animal and leaving the rest to rot?  Most people will generally agree that something like this isn't acceptable, but unless it's illegal to do it, you won't hear me publicly bash someone for doing it (BTW, it's not illegal in KY to do that).

If there's something that you don't agree with, take it up with that person and/or try to get the law changed in your area to make it illegal.  Otherwise, don't condemn someone for doing something their way when it is legal for them.
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In all seriousness, the Marlin is a great rifle, too. I own a Model 60, one of the best rifles ever made.
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