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Ammo for a .300 Whisper
« on: June 09, 2006, 01:10:55 PM »
Hey all. I'm considering a .300 Whisper barrel for my TC Encore. So far, I'm thoroughly impressed with this little cartridge. In doing my research, I came across a site in German that once translated really peaked my interest. Have a looksee and let me know what you folks think. I'm still looking to see if I can even buy these bullets for reloading, not to mention the specialized dies that will probably be needed. :roll:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://home.snafu.de/l.moeller/7,62-mm/300-Whisper-Patrone.htm&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=6&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D.300%2Bwhisper%2Bencore%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN
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Re: Ammo for a .300 Whisper
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2006, 03:55:27 PM »
 well, i looked at all the info last half i cant read germen so ? is this ammo suppose to break up on inanimate targets but results in disintegretion in live targets. 3 section's. thats some wild ammo i did like the surpresser's (nice) in fl if you don't have class 3 lic-can not own . when you look at the metal post it look likes it just put a dent into it. ammo kind of like silver glaser safety slug's  www.safetvisug.com with out the #12 are #6 projectile's. it's nice that you would not have very much ricochet .  and thats moven on out at 2400fps. 308cal glaser 3000fps/7.62x39 2300fps/ 30/06 3100fps. all with 24in barrel's and all slug wt 130gr .  cool stuff
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Re: Ammo for a .300 Whisper
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2006, 11:59:28 AM »
Hi All, I chewed myself thru the entire website in German and am still trying to get my braincells to relax.  :D There was a lot of discussion of whether or not  barrel twist, projectile lenghts, weight, velocity etc etc. was the best for different types of these sub velocity bullets.  I am not an engineer or a ballistics dude. Lastly was a discussion whether the designer should even deal with the Government because of the firearms regulation in Germany that basically states that firearms and ammo  is primarily a matter of the State to have, not civilians. His comment was that whenever the State gets involved with confiscating firearms from civilians some major  s h i t  is going to go down shortly thereafter. A number of the terms used are specific for the Legal or Hunting and Game farms professions. I got the feeling that is the main interest to dispatch game near residential areas from game farms without the noise or possibly having bullets whizzing out of the beasties and whacking some burghers in the behind.  :twisted:
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Re: Ammo for a .300 Whisper
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2006, 12:15:06 PM »
i to thought same thing but just wanted to keep it about hunting and ammo. the german's have some tough law'a when it comes to firearms. ( due to WW2) THATS WHY I WAS SAYING SURPRESSER'S ARE NOT LEGLE IN THE GREAT STATE OF FL, probably-same though out u.s.a ? .  p.s i would not want ammo that breaks apart like that for hunting. i will just keep to my HORNADY ammo. and for home protection i will stay with the SILVER GLASER SAFETY SLUG'S. in 40cal O0
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Re: Ammo for a .300 Whisper
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2006, 01:21:17 AM »
My thoughts on the ammo were along the lines of it making a GREAT neck shooting round. Probably be even better for hogs. With this ammo, you'd have more leway on your area of effect. You'll know that the bullet need to get INTO the neck and the 3 sides that veer off in all direction will have a much greater possibility of hitting the spinal cord. For the hogs, it would help not having to shoot the hog in the head. With as small as the vitals are on a hog, one of those 3, or the base going straight, has got to hit something.
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Re: Ammo for a .300 Whisper
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2006, 08:37:55 AM »
My thoughts on the ammo were along the lines of it making a GREAT neck shooting round. Probably be even better for hogs. With this ammo, you'd have more leway on your area of effect. You'll know that the bullet need to get INTO the neck and the 3 sides that veer off in all direction will have a much greater possibility of hitting the spinal cord. For the hogs, it would help not having to shoot the hog in the head. With as small as the vitals are on a hog, one of those 3, or the base going straight, has got to hit something.
not trying to sound like a butt head, but a 22cal in the head of any hog will drop him in his tracks.  but myself i like to use my 444 i just love big bull-its . so if you like it let me know how it does O0
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Re: Ammo for a .300 Whisper
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2006, 02:02:58 PM »
 This is somewhat off the post but interesting anyway. I was watching "Mythbuster" on TV and the dudes were doing some bullet penetration tests shooting thru water into ballistic gel.  The had a 9mm, 12 gauge slug, . 223Rem, 30-06 and  a 50 BMG for tests.

The 9mm and the 12 gauge were fired vertical into a test tank. You had to be 5 feet below the surface to be save from the 9mm (pistol), the  12 gauge pounded down to 7 feet, busted the test tank to here and gone with a huge exit wound in the gel.  :shock:

All rifle bullets were fired at around a 22 deg angle. Even the big 50 cal was nonlethal after around 2 feet into water. All the bullets were fragmented.  So speed isn't everything.

PS I forgot, they also had a muzzleloader(.50 cal I hink) for the test. I don't recall how it performed but better then all the high V stuff.
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Re: Ammo for a .300 Whisper
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2006, 01:10:45 AM »
KS... Here is a great page and lots of info on the .300 Whisper.   

http://www.quarterbore.com/300whisper/index.html

I have been looking into this round for some time and I think that there is one in my future... I can't imagine a better urban house cat hunting round!!   O0  ooops!  The idea of the silencer on it and the only sound being from the action locking up is very enticing.  I will probably get an encour barrel first and see how the round works on hogs from different distances, and if all goes well than maybe invest in an AR platform with the .300 whisper works and a silencer.  I could probably make my money back in time doing varmint and hog controll with it.  I already have a night vision scope that I could mount on top, and that set up with the silencer would make for some interesting fun!!!!  Who wants to come play house cat safari??
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Re: Ammo for a .300 Whisper
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2006, 02:42:59 PM »
Hey Alex,

Yeah, I've been there. Oh... and did I mention that I hate you? :twisted:

I will probably get an encour barrel first and see how the round works on hogs from different distances, and if all goes well than maybe invest in an AR platform with the .300 whisper works and a silencer. I could probably make my money back in time doing varmint and hog controll with it. I already have a night vision scope that I could mount on top, and that set up with the silencer would make for some interesting fun!!!!
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Re: Ammo for a .300 Whisper
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2006, 04:12:32 PM »
Hey Alex,

Yeah, I've been there. Oh... and did I mention that I hate you? :twisted:

I will probably get an encour barrel first and see how the round works on hogs from different distances, and if all goes well than maybe invest in an AR platform with the .300 whisper works and a silencer. I could probably make my money back in time doing varmint and hog controll with it. I already have a night vision scope that I could mount on top, and that set up with the silencer would make for some interesting fun!!!!
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