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Re: .172 17 CAL 25 GR V-MAX
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2007, 09:02:09 PM »
This is the first I heard anything about burnout on the 17's.
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Re: .172 17 CAL 25 GR V-MAX
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2007, 09:30:08 PM »
dont they make a 32 grain vmax for the .17?  or is that a bit heavy for distance outta the thing

Hornady makes a 32 gr. V-Max but I think it is .204 ( 20 cal.) then again ,I could be wrong on this  :wink:
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Re: .172 17 CAL 25 GR V-MAX
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2007, 10:11:41 PM »
This is the first I heard anything about burnout on the 17's.

oh man i dont even own one and know bout this!  beings they are a smaller tube with more juice, they are being burned out faster than normal. one of them drawbacks of a wildcat load..
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Re: .172 17 CAL 25 GR V-MAX
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2007, 10:40:35 PM »
I think the bullet you guys are talking about is loaded for the .17 CENTERFIRE rifle. :roll: ;D

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Re: .172 17 CAL 25 GR V-MAX
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2007, 11:10:28 PM »
I think the bullet you guys are talking about is loaded for the .17 CENTERFIRE rifle. :roll: ;D

Neat little gun!  It will flat open a groundhog up like you used a zipper! :twisted:


i didn`t even know there was such thing as a .17 centerfire....i`m glad you got the high speed conntection BC  ;D

your right...after doing some checking here is what i found.....besides wanting one...

At the range, the first step was to fire factory ammo to obtain baseline pressure and muzzle velocity data. The results were interesting.

I had two brands of factory ammo--Remington Express loads with 25-grain HPs and Hornady Varmint Express loads featuring 20-grain molycoated V-Max bullets. I fired five rounds of each to obtain the necessary data for comparison, with the handloads to follow. The Remington loads produced unexpectedly low velocity and pressure data--3,907 fps at 48,200 psi-- while the lighter Hornady load exited the muzzle at 4,320 fps with 54,500 psi. The Hornady data was right on the mark for pressure, reassuring me that my equipment was operating correctly.

For whatever reason, the Remington ammo is loaded very conservatively--if 3,900-plus fps can be called conservative. Equally interesting, the sleek little 20-grain V-Max bullets were scorchers at more than 4,300 fps in the Hornady factory loads. These figures were to be borne out by later handload data.

I had an extremely limited choice of bullets (two) to use in the handloading phase, and both are from Hornady. Its 25-grain HP has been around for decades, and is now joined by a 20-grain V-Max. The 20 grain projectile--with its polymer tip--is actually slightly longer than the 25 grain HP, which makes the published ballistic coefficients nearly identical at .185 and .187, respectively. These BCs are only slightly lower than those for similar .22 bullets, which run in the low .200 range.

Berger is the only other widely distributed brand offering a .17 bullet. There are six weights available, ranging from a 15-grain HP to a 37-grain VLD. Unfortunately, none of these were available in time for testing.

(Left) Even a dime looks sizable
compared to Hornady's two .17
caliber bullets. (Right) Remington
factory loads proved their excellent
accuracy potential.


I kept handloads within the 53,000 to 57,000 psi range, and obtained excellent accuracy with several different powder/bullet combinations. Muzzle velocities with the 25-grain Hornady exceeded 4,100 fps at this pressure level in almost all cases, and the 20-grain V-Max left the muzzle at more than 4,400 fps in all combinations. A gusting wind at the range showed that the .17's reputation for wind sensitivity is well-earned, but manageable. With careful shooting technique, it should be reliable up to 300 yards and possibly beyond on small varmints. For calling coyotes and jump-shooting jackrabbits, I would be hard pressed to name a better cartridge than the .17 Remington.



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Re: .172 17 CAL 25 GR V-MAX
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2007, 01:32:53 AM »
Oh yeah, the .17 rem is like the 220 swift. It has a reputation for burning up barrels. Now days, the swift doesn't burn up barrels any more, from what I've gathered.
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Re: .172 17 CAL 25 GR V-MAX
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2007, 02:14:52 AM »
Besides burning up barrels, the speed was a problem in that if you hit a blade of grass the bullet exploded. I did a test once by hanging single sheets of newspaper 4 feet apart and shooting them at 100 yds. The second sheet looked like you shot it with a shotgun. That being said the red halo effect you got when shooting a groundhog was quite spectacular
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Re: .172 17 CAL 25 GR V-MAX
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2007, 03:37:59 PM »
The .17 rimfire won't be burning out barrels. BC, you beat me to it, about the Rem .17 centerfire.  O0 That high speed internet service of yours sure is a whizbang!  :wink:  O0  :)
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Re: .172 17 CAL 25 GR V-MAX
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2007, 03:53:45 PM »
I was scratching my head their for a minute then some one brought up the .17 remington and the barrel thing started to make sense. I wonder how much a gun in .17 remington would cost.
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Re: .172 17 CAL 25 GR V-MAX
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2007, 11:19:38 PM »
A quick search for 17 remington on gunbroker.com turned up several. They seem to start round about $600 and go up from there. But, they do have a burnout problem still. If you gotta have a .17, go with an HMR or an HM2. If you want a round that travels over 4Kfps, go with a 220 Swift. Same speeds, bigger bullets.
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