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Offline bighoytman

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powder charge
« on: February 02, 2007, 06:04:35 PM »
I have a freind that hunts with a 50 cal. rifle  with a hammer and number 11 cap. he shoots a patched roundball and 60gr, black powderhe shoot about 50 yards would this load kill a deer at 100 yards.
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Re: powder charge
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2007, 08:07:13 PM »
More than likely, yes.  My .58 cal muzzleloader shoots a patched round ball and 65 gr. of powder and it's sufficient.
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Re: powder charge
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2007, 08:57:11 PM »
i started getting technical here, then decided against it,  a .50 cal blackpowder using accuall blackpowder, I would go at least 75 grains to ensure the kill, but then again if i was your buddy, i would go to the range with a can and some lead, and work up the gun from there. i shoot 90 grain out of mine for maxi-balls and its accurate up to 100 yards. round balls are a lot rougher to be accurate with, and you gotta tune to the rifle and load.  at 65 grain i dont think it would have enough butt behind it passed the 50 yard mark myself..
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Re: powder charge
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2007, 09:15:59 PM »
at 65 grain i dont think it would have enough butt behind it passed the 50 yard mark myself..

Ya' want to stand at 100 and let me shoot at ya'?? :twisted:
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Re: powder charge
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2007, 09:37:14 PM »
thats where his gun shoots the best groups really well at 50 yards it starts to wander past 65grains. I've never seen him shoot past that but he says it groups really well even at 100.
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Re: powder charge
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2007, 11:40:43 AM »
Ya' want to stand at 100 and let me shoot at ya'?? :twisted:

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Re: powder charge
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2007, 11:50:48 AM »
i was going by the tripple 7 load data, and also the thoughts of to drop a deer downrange it needs approx. 100 flbs to do it, and here is the data off hod.
at 70 gr powder its giving a 1700fps and remember the roundball ballistics suck to say the least..


Muzzleloading Rifles

Patched Round Ball
 

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45 CALIBER POWDER MEASURE SETTING TRIPLE SEVEN FFG
Bullet & Sabot
 40 GR. 50 GR. 60 GR.
 70 GR.
 
440 Hdy. RB/.020 Ox-Yoke patch 1534 1692 1926 -
 
50 CALIBER POWDER MEASURE SETTING TRIPLE SEVEN FFG
Bullet & Sabot
 70 GR. 80 GR. 90 GR.
 100 GR.
 
490 Spr. RB/.020 Ox-Yoke patch 1744 1842 1925 1988
 
50 CALIBER POWDER MEASURE SETTING TRIPLE SEVEN FFFG
Bullet & Sabot
 70 GR. 80 GR. 90 GR.
 100 GR.
 
490 Spr. RB/.020 Ox-Yoke patch 1801 1873 1945 1997
 
54 CALIBER POWDER MEASURE SETTING TRIPLE SEVEN FFG
Bullet & Sabot
 80 GR. 90 GR. 100 GR.
 120 GR.
 
530 Hdy. RB/.020 Ox-Yoke patch 1667 1775 1846 1943
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Re: powder charge
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2007, 07:23:17 PM »
I used to hunt squirrels with a .58 cal using 500 gr maxiballs. I had to shoot them in the head, and it was a very accurate rifle and load. The rifle was a reproduction of the Springfield. The dead squirrels' headless bodies usually sailed as high as the treetops when I shot at a steep angle.
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Re: powder charge
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2007, 08:20:53 PM »
I used to hunt squirrels with a .58 cal using 500 gr maxiballs. I had to shoot them in the head, and it was a very accurate rifle and load. The rifle was a reproduction of the Springfield. The dead squirrels' headless bodies usually sailed as high as the treetops when I shot at a steep angle.

the .58 woulda been as big as thier heads anyway!! :shock:
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Re: powder charge
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2007, 07:21:21 PM »
It is not recommended to shoot a deer with a round ball and patch over 75 yards. 60 gr. of powder is right on the edge at that range if possible try to kick it up to 70 or 80 Gr. but under no circumstance exceed 100 gr. of powder out of an old side lock. You hear a lot of folks talking about shoot 150 gr of powder but that is for the newer Mag in line muzzle-loaders. Always read the owners manual and do no exceed the recommendations

 


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