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honest....it's not to rile everyone up.........
« on: July 03, 2007, 08:02:01 PM »
i saw a confederate flag on the window of an old jacked up truck today, and it got me wondering.........why would you celebrate losing a war??--honest to god, i'm not trying to tick anyone off, or "start something", but i just really don't understand why you see people flying the confederate flag, and being so proud of it.   ---you gotta keep in mind that i live a mile from canada and am about the farthest thing from a southern as you can get..........it just seems to me flying a confederate flag is a little like wearing a 1991 atlanta braves world series loser tee shirt......

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Re: honest....it's not to rile everyone up.........
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2007, 09:01:46 PM »
It's not celebrating "losing a war" any more than a Kurd, waving a Kurdish flag, would be celebrating getting gassed by "Chemical Ali".  It's just a Southern identity thing, and not racist either, as a lot of folks want to make it out to be. If you ask a Harley rider why he wears a t-shirt, glorifying an obselete design, oil leaking, inherently unbalanced engine; the answer you will get is, "If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand!"

BTW, I also have a '91 Atlanta Braves t-shirt in my closet ;D
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Re: honest....it's not to rile everyone up.........
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2007, 09:06:45 PM »
It's not about celebrating losing or winning , it's about honoring those who had the fortitude to fight  and die for what they believed in .

Same for OLD GLORY .

I don't think the Braves had quite as much conviction .


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Re: honest....it's not to rile everyone up.........
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2007, 10:32:49 PM »
Elwood pretty much nailed it. I live a little too far north for most folks to see or understand that. Round here it's veiwed as racist. Most White supremist groups brandish the CBF as a symbol of the way things were 150 yrs ago. Therefore, displaying one now can land you in a heap of trouble in these parts.
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Re: honest....it's not to rile everyone up.........
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2007, 10:36:22 PM »
yeah they have tried to ban the flag due to its "racial overtones" the only thing that has racial overtones is the person looking at it.  view the flag as you would with any other flag, malcom x tshirt, or anything else someone is proud of. not going to get ugly, it was an honest question..   O0
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Re: honest....it's not to rile everyone up.........
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2007, 11:01:26 PM »
Around here their are confederate flags flying everywhere; and ya, i guess if you ain't from the south you wouldn't understand without asking. I am originally from TN and have been around the southern flag all my life....and it never was meant to me to be racist.

This is what the southern flag means to me:

Honor for the lives lost during the war. A statement that individual states should have rights seperate from the government. An icon that means that the government should not control the people...but the people control the government. It means there IS a reason that we have the right to bear arms.

Most people think that the civil war was ONLY fought about slavery..however that was not the MAIN point of the war. Actually most all the slaves WILLINGLY fought for the South. Slavery wasn't even brought up during the beginning of the war..it only came in question during the middle. Although most history books make it seem like that was the only thing on the table at all. The main point of the war was the question of individual states rights. And yes, slavery was in question...however there was more to it than that. The question of taxes, laws, and religion all played a part. And yes, obviously the South lost....which led to the creation of the Federal Governement....or "Big Brother" if you wish...

And yes...i believe the South shoulda won....LOL

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Re: honest....it's not to rile everyone up.........
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2007, 11:24:11 PM »
I concur with all the statements made above. And would like to add that   " If the South would've won we'd a had it made "  take a look at that song by Hank Jr,  it explains alot.
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Re: honest....it's not to rile everyone up.........
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2007, 12:09:06 AM »


We aren`t going to be roasting weenies are we  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: honest....it's not to rile everyone up.........
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2007, 06:10:56 AM »
I agree with Lady T, it can mean a lot of things for different folks. Flying in front of a restaurant , it can mean: "Sweet tea served here" ;D
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Re: honest....it's not to rile everyone up.........
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2007, 11:35:21 AM »
Of course it can also say "I'm as yankee as they come but want to be cool"  ;D I'm from the south but up here in Iowa I got buddies that aint even been south of the Iowa line but still fly them  :roll:
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