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Re: Long Range Rifles
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2007, 10:56:14 AM »
Yeah, the .204 seems to be a sorry flash in the pan for many owners. I shot next to one last year with my HMR. The .204 was owned and being shot by a pal that is a good shooter and a gunsmith.

Much to his disappointment and amazement, my .17 outshot his rifle. We were shooting at 100 meters. It wasn't even a contest, the .17 beat the pants off the .204.
Ol' Al sold the .204 shortly afterwards.
I think the new .17 centerfires are the up and coming good shooters, such as the .17 Fireball, not be be confused with the older .17 Remington centerfire. One drawback is that the new .17 Fireball won't have new brass for reloading until next year. So, it is going to require reloading factory loaded ammo after shooting.

Back to the .204, that had to be about the loudest rifle I have stood next to while it was being shot. Up until I was watching Al shoot his .204, I thought the round had a future. He informed me of other .204 owners that were very disappointed with the round, too.

For what I consider casual range varmint shooting of 200-300 yards, I think a .223 is a good choice, and cheap to shoot. The .17 Fireball would be a solid round to check out, too. Longer ranges are certainly easy to squeeze out of the same rounds, too. I should inject the nice to shoot .22/250 here, also.

For the longer ranges, I prefer a heavier killer, such as a .270, .308, or the good ol' .30/06. I have owned my share of the suggested calibers and have shot a lot of critters with most of the calibers listed, all with good results.
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Re: Long Range Rifles
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2007, 11:02:37 AM »
Is the Fireball you mentioned the same round that Remington had put out years and years ago for their Bolt Action Pistol?? That pistol was years ahead  and sort of reminds my of the TC Contender types
( Hand Cannon) now.

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Re: Long Range Rifles
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2007, 11:03:35 AM »
I go with BC on this one. No telling how long the 204 is on the market, 20 cal is a weirdo. 22-250,  220 Swift are more then what you need. If you see a good  222 it is certainly worth a look as well as well as a Hornet
  O0 Those are certainly great choices, and proven to be so. That's the thing, they are proven to be good shooters over a number of years.

I used to own a custom .218 Bee that was a riot to shoot and was good for varmints. One of my hunt along pals carried a .22 Hornet that did a surprisingly good job, too.
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Re: Long Range Rifles
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2007, 11:11:58 AM »
Is the Fireball you mentioned the same round that Remington had put out years and years ago for their Bolt Action Pistol?? That pistol was years ahead  and sort of reminds my of the TC Contender types
( Hand Cannon) now.
Unless I am wrong, I think that's a different round. In fact, didn't they name the pistol the Fireball?
I always thought that one of the Remington Fireball pistols would be great to own, but never owned one. I did own one of the older models of the TC Contenders but wasn't greatly impressed. Perhaps if I owned varmint calibers instead of large calibers in the TC I would have kept it longer.
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Re: Long Range Rifles
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2007, 12:10:57 PM »
The .17 Fireball is new to the market and has been getting a suprising amount of good publicity from those that own it.

Personally, I'd go with a .20 Tactical if you want speed with ease of loading supplies. The .20 Tac is a .223 necked down to .20 and pushes those rounds well past 4,000fps.
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Re: Long Range Rifles
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2007, 12:32:26 PM »
That Remington Pistol was called X or XP 100 that was chambered for the Fireball I recall. The stock was made from Nylon and looked similar to the Rem Nylon 66  in .22 Rim

 


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